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Hi all, I'm not sure whether I should ask my questions on the page of the WikiProject Rugby league or on this talk page; I've decided to start here, because the article that triggered my questions is about a rugby union player, Freedom Vahaakolo.

Vahaakolo, a professional rugby union player, has played one season (2023) for the club Point Chevalier Pirates in a local Auckland Rugby League club competition (the Fox Memorial Premiership) and for a regional/provincial representative team, the Auckland Vulcans, in the NZRL National Competition. An editor recently added an {{Infobox rugby league biography}} to the page and made more edits (like placing a photo, which doesn't clearly show the player, as an external link!) that made me wonder whether they should be reverted or not.

I have the following questions:

• should a player's appearances and points scored in a local rugby league club competition like the Fox Memorial Premiership be included in the {{Infobox rugby league biography}} placed under, or embedded in, the {{Infobox rugby biography}}? I have looked at the guidelines in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby league/Manual of style/Biography infobox (see under "Players", point 3a) which seem to suggest that they should not be included, because the top competition is the national competition (see below) and not a local club competition. Should that guideline be applied here as well, or is there another guideline for rugby union that prevails here (if it doesn't lead to the same conclusion)? Personally, I think that just a few sentences in the text of the article are more than sufficient.
• should appearances and points scored in the NZRL National Competition (like for the Auckland Vulcans) be recorded under "representative"? The Wikiproject Rugby league MOS says under the heading "Rugby union", point 3, that the "representative" section should only be used for national teams (which the Auckland Vulcans obviously aren't), but it doesn't say whether that also applies to rugby league. Maybe these appearances should be included under "club" in the league infobox? Or is a mention in the text sufficient?
• another problem may be that the Auckland Vulcans don't seem to have their own article. On various pages, "Auckland Vulcans" links to the article about the Auckland rugby league team, however, this article seems to be about another representative team, the Akarana Falcons. There is an article about a defunct Auckland Vulcans team, but I don't know whether this is the same team (revived) or a different team. If it's the same team (revived), then the article is outdated.

I hope to find the time to expand this article (the rugby union part) later this year, but for now I hope someone who knows how to deal with these infobx issues is willing to have a look at the most recent edits to the article about Vahaakolo. I have looked at articles about other rugby league players and generally only appearances/points scored for professional clubs have been included under "club" and no regional/provincial teams under "representative". A quick search found a few exceptions, but these articles were about players who played a very long time ago (1930s or earlier).

I'd appreciate your opinion/help. Ruggalicious (talk) 12:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

This was discussed at WT:RL back in May/June but I don't think there was any solid consensus about what teams or leagues to include in a player's career; the advocacy for "only top tier teams" then got sidetracked into asking which leagues would be considered on that list...

If the information is to be included (and I'm somewhat apathetic about it since it's only a few lines of infobox code) it should definitely be embedded into the main infobox. Primefac (talk) 13:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Trying to clean out Category:Pages using infobox rugby biography with unknown parameters (0). Per this report there are high occurrences of a few parameters that seem logical to add:

1. |children= - 296 pages use this template with that param
2. |spouse= - 319 pages
3. |image_size= - 450 pages
4. |ru_currentclub= - 280 pages

Want to make sure there are no objections to adding these parameters to the template. Happy to mock it up in the sandbox first if there are concerns.—Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:47, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

Always check the archives. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:39, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! —Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 02:47, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Can anyone clue me in as to why there are so many < nowiki /> tags in the template? What function do they serve… I is confused… - Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 08:41, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

What did you find when you looked in the template's history? – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:26, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

After doing about 5 minutes of comparing different revisions I was unable to find when/where it was added. Is there some trick to finding that in the history? — Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 21:30, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Yes: using the "Browse history interactively" pop-down history slider at the top of the page is the easiest. Use Newton's method, splitting the time frame in half each time until you narrow it down to about ten diffs, then go diff by diff, reading edit summaries and making note of who made the edit (hint 1; leads to hint 2 and hint 3; and if all else fails, backup plan). – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:37, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

I’m not seeing this “Browse history interactively” of which you speak… Is it possible that is an extension or a gadget you have enabled? —Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 21:44, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

I think it shows on every diff page by default. Try this page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:06, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

Oh I was on the wrong page! Thanks a ton. - Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 01:35, 2 October 2025 (UTC)

Or you get hella lucky; I randomly (and accidentally) clicked the 93rd revision back Special:Diff/1314415818 and it showed the nowiki tags being added. Primefac (talk) 21:54, 5 October 2025 (UTC)

Template:Infobox person has an RfC for possible consensus regarding the removal of color from person infoboxes. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. — Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 18:31, 2 October 2025 (UTC)