User talk:Andrewa

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If I left you a message on your talk page, please respond there, I am watching your talk page. That's of course unless the message at your talk page was a mere heads-up as to progress on a discussion here or on another talk page, in which case probably best to continue the discussion where it is.

I prefer to discuss issues regarding any particular article, policy etc. at its talk page, so if I'm already involved in a discussion there's no need to fork the discussion to here, and if not then a simple heads-up here with a link to the relevant talk page and section is best. Be aware of the canvassing guidelines, but if you're just asking me for advice rather than a whole list of people there should be no problem there.

Please don't censor my talk page. Just because you don't support what someone else is saying is no reason to remove it. Is it now? (You wouldn't think I had to say that, but I have learned otherwise.)

On the other hand, if the edits you are removing are by banned users (or their socks), then please feel free to do it. That's not censorship, it's administrative drudgery, and I thank you for taking it on. But if there's doubt as to who the contributor really is, or if the proposed ban is not yet in force, or both, better to leave me to clean up my own page. (And again I would have thought that was obvious to all, but have learned otherwise.) A non-abusive heads-up on the other antics of the contributor, in reply to what they have said or done here, is always appreciated. TIA!

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Per WP:NAMECHANGES we need reliable secondary sources published since the rename that use the new name. To avoid cluttering the RM discussion Talk:University of North Texas Health Science Center#Requested move 29 October 2025 I invite suggestions below. I'm happy to discuss here whether or not these are helpful sources. No pressure to do this, just an idea that might help the eventual closer. Andrewa (talk) 21:38, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Sources now provided. Andrewa (talk) 05:42, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

And RM closed as move by consensus . Andrewa (talk) 01:12, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

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Hello,

I'm a newbie editor, and noticed that you chimed in on my requested renaming of James Jesus Angleton. Obviously, I feel pretty strongly about where I want the renaming to go, but it's definitely without consensus. Should I just close the renaming request because of the lack of consensus per wp:rmci, or do something else? Forgive me for my confusion, just don't want to do anything wrong. Best, Theodore Christopher (talk) 20:34, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks Theodore Christopher for the question.

Closure should normally be done by an uninvolved editor. The only time it's proper for the requestor (called the "nominator" of "nom" for short) to close a requested move themselves is if they decide to withdraw the request and obviously that's not the case here. You can request closure but you do not need to do so, it will happen in any case. Watch Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions#Elapsed listings and the following backlog section and you will see the requests progressively closed as editors who take on this role get around to processing the requests.

Much of this is automated by various scripts and bots which take care of some of the drudgery, but that's the underlying process. Andrewa (talk) 21:48, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

You noted here that the move history will be lost. May I introduce you to User:Nardog/MoveHistory? You'll find there are many, many more moves than the short list you linked. This is because page moves are only logged at the title they are moved away from. Toadspike 08:37, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. It's an interesting looking tool. I will have a look at installing and enabling it, but my initial impression is that it's a lot of trouble and learning for no obvious benefit to me. Obviously it works well for others. But it's not a high priority for me.

There are lots of other tools used by other WP:RM regulars that I'd like to investigate too! But I don't claim to be an expert on every aspect of RM, and am very selective in the discussions I join. Some of these tools (and perhaps this one) will I'm sure turn out to be more useful to others who tend to work on different types of RM discussions than I do. And that's good. We are a team, each with our own specialities.

The short list to which I linked are just those that would otherwise be in the page history, and no others, is that correct? Those are the ones that I was concerned to preserve, for many reasons, including but not only detecting and controlling vandalism, and dealing with unintentional disruption by new users.

I find these page histories useful for these and other purposes. If you don't, and would prefer to use this much longer list, that's fine.

So thanks again for the heads-up, and if I find time to investigate this further and need help with it, may I post to your user talk page? Andrewa (talk) 09:37, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Your short list is just the page history of Islamic mathematics. I wouldn't worry about it getting deleted. There is no non-redirect history, so if the RM closes as "moved" then most likely the pages will be swapped, leaving this history at the old title. (If an admin performs the move, they may choose to G6 the history instead, in which case only admins will be able to see this history, but any curious editor could request a copy at WP:REFUND.) A more useful list for page moves would be

I understand if you're wary of installing a script you won't use – I regularly clean out unnecessary scripts myself. There aren't too many others used for moving pages: I list two others at User:Toadspike/How to RMTR, and some folks use a third (Move+ or alternatives) for closing RMs, though I prefer to do that manually.

You are of course always welcome to post on my talk page. Toadspike 10:30, 27 November 2025 (UTC)