User talk:Enigmaman/Archives/2008/August

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Thanks for the award!--Greg D. Barnes (talk) 23:37, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I noticed you've closed my sock puppetry case for "lack of manpower," but like I've explained in my July 28 edit, an admin (Thatcher) confirmed that the user Fragments of Jade and 76.120.173.40 were one and the same despite their claims to the contrary.

Shouldn't that be enough to close the case?

That would be helpful, as that user has been quite bothersome in the past few weeks... Ludicrous and baseless accusations of racism, sock puppetry, etc... Erigu (talk) 00:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello, yes, that should be enough. Thatcher is an admin and a checkuser. However, there's no reason for the SSP case, if that's so. Thatcher or any other admin could simply have blocked based on that. Sorry for the inconvenience. Enigma ^message 00:44, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, the confirmation from Thatcher came a while after I filed the SSP case, so...

But what should I do now? I told Thatcher about the sock puppetry case, but nothing got done...

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Oh, don't be, really! I'm actually grateful for your quick reply. If anything, I'm sorry for bothering you with that... Erigu (talk) 02:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Fragments of Jade has two prior blocks for edit-warring, too. I'd recommend going to User talk:Thatcher again and asking for blocks based on his findings. I suppose the other option would be to file another SSP case, but I doubt that it's worthwhile. Hope it works out! Enigma ^message 02:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I guess I'll try and ask Thatcher again... I feel a bit bad about asking him again about that, but... ^^;

Thank you very much anyway! Erigu (talk) 05:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

It's one of those books I was forced to read as part of the curriculum (it's a common mandatory text in the Australian English Higher School Certificate) that made me stop reading because of how poorly written and overrated it was. It left me with a sour taste in my mouth and I didn't pick up novels again for another year and a half.

While I would like to aid in fixing the article I currently have other issues in real life that is keeping me from doing anything really contributory to wikipedia outside of basic janitorial tasks, I only de-prodded the article because despite my disdain for it it is a notable work. I will, however, in due course aid as best I can when I get an opportunity. –– Lid^(Talk) 06:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For doing a really good job at WP:SSP when no one else will bother. Good job, my friend. ScarianCall me Pat! 23:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I guess if I'm going to keep working the night shift, I should learn how to close these things. Seems to come up a lot. :) Darkspots (talk) 09:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm up way past any decent hour. I should've been sleeping hours ago. Next time I expect you to cover for me! In case you didn't know, I put together a short instruction manual for closing an RfA early (non-bureaucratic closure due to SNOW/NOTNOW or because of candidate withdrawal). Enigma ^message 09:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I did not know but I suspected something like this might exist. This is perfect. And I'm hoping to get some sleep someday myself. Thanks, Darkspots (talk) 09:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

And we thought that people having guestbooks and secret pages was a bad idea. Forget WP:MYSPACE, how about WP:EHARMONY. I ought to update the WP:NOT page with that: "Wikipedia is not an online dating service". J.delanoy^gabs_adds 22:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I forgot to hit preview before saving that, and I was praying that WP:EHARMONY was not a bluelink *lets out breath* J.delanoy^gabs_adds 22:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Something doesn't smell quite right here. Footballfan was blocked following the SSP/RFCU, yet he still edited today? Also, what's up with this edit from Darkspots? GlassCobra 04:08, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

That edit was made by Footballfan on his talk page, not by Darkspots. Footballfan is able to edit his own talkpage, but not anywhere else. I reverted that edit because it's out of line, but I don't see anything out of the ordinary going on. Cheers, Enigma ^message 04:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Wait, I see your confusion now. What happened was Footballfan made a post and fraudulently signed it with Darkspots's signature, making it appear that Darkspots made a racially-motivated attack. He then responded as if Darkspots had actually said it. I'm going to push for an indef block. Enigma ^message 04:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Wow, you're right. That's pretty underhanded. GlassCobra 04:48, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey Enigma, I've been crazy busy offline. No time to wiki this last two months. I'll be back soon though. Non Curat Lex (talk) 21:42, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

FYI, see this blacklisting entry:

• MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#Spam and article-tampering by Volano Software Inc. (permanent link)

I'm not sure that this will stop our Volano Software spammer/troll, but it may slow him down some.
--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:29, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I would like for you to reopen this case if at all possible. The reason given -"There is not enough manpower on a volunteer-run encyclopaedia to deal with this. Consider checkuser"- for closing it does not seem suitable to me. I would understand if you said it may take some time, in which case you would have to leave it open longer. I doubt that there is lack of manpower. I was told that the evidence was inconclusive, so I would prefer it if the admins would all be on the same page when it comes to closing a case. As far as checkuser goes, I do not think it will reveal anything given that the suspect is thought to have IP spoofing software. I have more evidence to submit. While this would make the case bigger, I would like some feedback on how to proceed. Libro0 (talk) 18:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

There is a clear lack of manpower. No one bothers with SSP cases like that because they're too long, okay? So no one bothers. So only Enigmaman and I bother to deal with it. But we cut the crap. Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 19:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate anyone who has patience enough to give their time. If the case cannot be reopened, I would like to open a second case in order to make the situation as clear to you as it is to me. Libro0 (talk) 19:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

• I would like the behavior of Libro0, his false sockpuppet allegations, other passive aggressive attacks, uncivil behavior, threats, ultimatums and other uncivil actions looked into. If anyone is causing a problem and wasting people's time it is he. Your Radio Enemy (talk) 17:43, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I have 2 things to ask you:

1) Every time I sign with my signature with 4 ~ it then later had (precedingly unsigned by jonni_boi) is there anyway of stopping it???

2) Will I manage to stop the unsigned bit added on the end, by making my signature in colour??? If so how do I go about doing it in colour???

I noticed you've been on here for long so I thought you could help me...

Please reply on my talk page Jonni Boi 19:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

if it doen't work it's User: Jonni_boi

Thanks --Jonni Boi 21:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Replied at your talk page. Enigma ^message 04:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed your recent "major cleanup" of Mariano Messera, two things, you deleted the sort key leaving the article without a defaultsort key of any description and you replaced the piped link to Association football with a piped link to a redirect page, Football (soccer) was moved rather a long time ago. I fixed these problems. EP 21:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Whoops, I forgot to add the default sort. The current default sort is preferable to what was there before. As for the piped link, you'll need to fix that on a bunch of other articles as well. That's the link the articles for the entire team has been using. Enigma ^message 13:42, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

You know, I did a ton of work on Club de Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata articles on Tuesday night. I don't know why you're so angry about one mistake. Enigma ^message 13:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry I came across as angry, another editor has warned me not to assume bad faith. I'm not sure that I did assume bad faith, I never accused you of deliberately damaging the article, I just pointed out the minor mistakes you made. Perhaps I was a little terse, I apologise for any hurt feelings. I should have said that I appreciate any effort to improve Wikipedia coverage of Argentine football before I said anything else. Perhaps you would like to look at Wikiproject Argentine football, feel free to sign up (if you can stand working alongside Mr angry;-). Regards EP 21:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

You sound much friendlier now! :D I appreciate the invitation. Last night I worked on a lot of Argentinean football articles because I came across one of them at Special:Newpages. I decided to turn it into something readable (and then saw the title was misspelled, etc.) and that led me to examine all the other Gimnasia de La Plata articles. I see you made the change for Romero at Club de Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata#Players. I think I'll join the project and see if I can help out. Cheers, Enigma ^message 00:35, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey Enigma, did you know RC retired? He let me know yesterday on the phone. Sad huh? Burner0718 ^{Jibba Jabba!} 03:32, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw his edit to his userpage. :( I hope he changes his mind. Enigma ^message 03:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Same here, Wikipedia won't be the same without him. Burner0718 ^{Jibba Jabba!} 04:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Guess who unretired? Burner0718 ^{Jibba Jabba!} 01:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

RC? :P Yeah, I was chatting with him earlier. I hope he's here to stay. Enigma ^message 03:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know he is. How ya doin'? Burner0718 ^{Jibba Jabba!} 03:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

On a side note, you wanna join this? Let me know if you do and want the user rights. Burner0718 ^{Jibba Jabba!} 04:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I do not have much spare time these days. Thanks for the offer, though. Enigma ^message 04:41, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I have submitted a new SSP. In this case I have removed the anonymous IPs that were in the previous case. I have also removed the Box Benefits and Omero Tognon since those represent a different situation. Both myself and the suspected puppetmaster have accused each other of making those. In my opinion that would be enough to close those. The third possibility that they belong to a legitimate 3rd party is extremely unlikely for a variety of reasons. Libro0 (talk) 04:36, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting me. I guess I just figured that his release would be the last entry under the Yankees section and, when it wasn't, I threw it in without reading. Cheers, JEB90 (talk) 20:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Sexson didn't surprise me. Melky did in that they waited this long. Then again I think Girardi will throw everything down to save himself. Have I mentioned I don't like him? :) Happy Friday TravellingCari 21:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Have a good weekend, you two. Melky should've been sent down months ago. Sexson was DFAd, but I don't understand why. He's a decent backup, he hits lefties well, and he doesn't really cost anything. Enigma ^message 21:17, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Uh... I think something's wrong with Scarian... the user page doesn't exist anymore and the talkpage has completely been blanked. Something's fishy... RoryReloaded (talk) 08:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

• He has blanked his own user page and blanked talk completely (without reason given in edit summary) before protecting it. --VS ^talk 03:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Yep. He sort of left Wikipedia. Unfortunate. I tried to convince him to stick around, to no avail. Enigma ^message 03:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

That's a damn pity.--VS ^talk 03:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Burner0718 ^{Jibba Jabba!} 04:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I have been a member here for some time. Given you are adding to their good article group why not join? Just a thought. --VS ^talk 03:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

With any luck, my first GA will be Chicago-related, so sure. I joined. Now we got an Aussie and a New Yorker. Sid was a New Yorker, too! He just ended up in Chicago because the most creative coach around was there. Enigma ^message 03:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Welcome on board - it's a pretty good group and keen to get GA's up. They have been kind enough not to be too concerned about my heritage. :-> --VS ^talk 03:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Enigmaman, in this AFD discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 Kansas State Wildcats football team, you made the following comment: "Policy is firmly against making articles for future teams". I nominated similar future team season articles for deletion, and I was wondering if you had a wlink to that policy you referred to. Thanks. — X96lee15 (talk) 04:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't have a link to a specific policy, but that's clearly been the precedent set in the past. Sorry. Enigma ^message 15:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Would you mind copyediting 1964 Gabon coup d'etat? This issue was raised at ts FAC. --I'm an Editorofthewiki 14:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing. I'll look it over in a few hours. Enigma ^message 15:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, done. Enigma ^message 04:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll give you even more cookies if you help promote 1964 Gabon! The Bald One ^{White cat} 18:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I did my share. :) Hope it works out. Enigma ^message 04:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I think these two bits might possibly reference out of the book which I think you have a copy of? Perhaps the index will give you page numbers and then we can finalise them off? Your thoughts?

• "At that time both at the college and pro levels, offenses were a drab scrum of running the ball with only occasional passes. In what was then the predominant single-wing formation, the quarterback was primarily a blocking back and rarely touched the ball. Most passing was done by the tailback, and then usually only on third down with long yardage to go. Halas and his coaches (primarily Clark Shaughnessy) invented a rather complex scheme building on the traditional T-formation, but needed the right quarterback to run it properly."
• "Upon starting with Halas, Luckman mastered an offense that revolutionized football, and became the basis of most modern professional offenses. Only Sammy Baugh of the Washington Redskins had the passing skills to match Luckman. Eventually, Luckman tutored college coaches across the Big Ten, Notre Dame and West Point in the intricacies of the passing game."

--VS ^talk 21:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I use Audacity. Hope that helps :) Seddσn ^{talk Editor Review} 00:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Enigma ^message 04:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

| She struck my archives again. -WarthogDemon 01:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I gave them a final warning. Looks block-worthy to me, but no one gave a final warning, so I'm staying on the safe side. Enigma ^message 04:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for signing up. You are just in time to consider Wikipedia:CHICAGO/leadership.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:39, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I'd love to help, but I'm not sure I would be any good at these. Enigma ^message 01:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Well done my friend. GA deserved to a historically important sportsman. So now that you have a taste what is the next article in your sights? --VS ^talk 21:23, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I helped out a little with two articles that are going places. 1964 Gabon coup d'état and Félix_Houphouët-Boigny. Not really my area of interest, but I'm willing to help anywhere. To tell you the truth, it's hard to believe that I finally made it. All this from the correspondence we traded back and forth a few months ago. Maybe I could help you with something? If not, and you still want to help me promote articles, I'm game for anything sports-related. Enigma ^message 21:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

• You pick another sports one and I will be interested. Heck I even learned something about your American game of, how you say it (?) grid ironing on this occasion. So what could be next on my horizon? Cheers File:Icon beer.gif --VS ^talk 01:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

FYI he's a confirmed sock, I rolledback his edits on the talk page of Glennon. Gnangarra 14:57, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Enigma ^message 05:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)