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Suspicious linkspam possible-sockpuppet

Hi Ivanvector -- thank you for your help with User:Saratherohan's linkspam! From what I can tell, User:Mohanunnu has picked up exactly where they left off. Any chance you'd be willing to step in there as well, please? If that's inappropriate to ask of you directly, I'm also totally willing to take this to whatever noticeboard is most appropriate. Thanks! -- Avocado (talk) 14:24, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

HackerKnownAs

Would you consider lifting the corresponding block on SirGallantThe4th as well? Or would you prefer for them to make an appeal? -- asilvering (talk) 01:49, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

@Asilvering: definitely not without an appeal. I don't think it would take much to convince me to unblock them, but they need to make the effort. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:15, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

No confidence

I won’t be editing the remigration article anymore, because you (plural) have established firm, uncompromising, and non-neutral ownership there. The ability to do so is Wikipedia's greatest flaw, greatest temptation, and greatest danger. I don't know if its founders would agree, but at least one of them likely would. When the slightest effort at neutrality is opposed by a block of biased editors, and so many editors have given up trying, it's futile to resist. Consider this a vote of no confidence in you (and Wikipedia). Anythingyouwant (talk) 18:59, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Block reason for Vinluna

Your block reason contains a redlink to WP:LLMCHAT. Is there a target intended there, perhaps WP:LLMCOMM? If so, that feels like a valid redirect and should probably be created. ~ Matthewrb Get in touch · Breadcrumbs 19:30, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

@Matthewrb: yeah, I screwed that up. I did mean to link to LLMCOMM, but there's no preview for block summaries and they can't be edited, I figured the point was obvious anyway. I wasn't sure if LLMCHAT was valid as a shortcut, but I can't think of any other uses either, so go ahead if you'd like. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:33, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
@Ivanvector: Yeah, the block system feels stuck in 2012 in that way. You'd think there would at least be a preview.
I've gone ahead and created the shortcut BOLDly. Thank you for your time! ~ Matthewrb Get in touch · Breadcrumbs 19:41, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
Hi Ivan,
Thankyou for taking the bull by the horns so to speak. I just had one query, did you block them as a regular adminstrative action or are they CBAN'ed? TarnishedPathtalk 05:50, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
I still personally hold to the view that blocks are merely a technical function used to enforce sanctions more commonly known as bans, and the banning policy is the only policy which grants the community authority to issue sanctions, therefore all community sanctions are de jure bans. Language in the policy supports this (under WP:CBAN: "Editors who are indefinitely blocked by community consensus, or remain indefinitely blocked after due consideration by the community, are considered "banned by the Wikipedia community.") That language developed from this discussion, but I'll warn you in advance that I'm at the absolute height of my pedantry in that discussion; one editor called my comments "hyperlegalistic" and they weren't wrong at all.
But community practice doesn't always follow the letter of policy, and that's by design. I would say that unless the participants in that discussion had explicitly proposed a site ban, it's likely that if an administrator decided to unblock on their own without having a new community discussion, probably nobody would complain.
That's a lot of words for me to say this should be treated like a regular admin action. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:00, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
Cheers. Words are good. TarnishedPathtalk 13:06, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Removal of IBan question

Hi Ivan,

Following the discussion at User Talk:D.18th the other day regarding an IBan they had recieved in January the block was removed by yourself with the reasoning they were no longer under an IBan per your March removal. From my reading of the initial close, however, the IBan was a community authorised editing restriction. Would such a ban not require community consensus to remove per WP:UNBAN? I'm not sure the removal of the ban was valid without a community discussion - if there was one can you let me know? Thanks! CoconutOctopus talk 19:28, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

@CoconutOctopus: nothing you said here is incorrect, and no there was no discussion about modifying the interaction ban.
Back in January D.18th and Aidillia were reported at ANI; you've seen that discussion. Subsequently, D.18th made good effort to abide by the ban while Aidilla pretty much just completely ignored it. They were reported again about a week later and blocked, and then were found to have about a dozen sockpuppets and were blocked indefinitely. D.18th emailed me about a week after that, asking how Aidillia's indef impacted their sanctions, and since it was then apparent that Aidillia had been the instigator all along, I told D.18th that their interaction ban was moot (). The timeline is off because I was taking a wikibreak at the time and didn't respond for a few weeks. I believe this to be a reasonable application of WP:IAR: trying to abide by the restriction while the other party completely ignored it and was actively antagonizing them with sockpuppets made it unreasonably difficult for D.18th to edit.
But I didn't anticipate Aidillia getting unblocked, and now it's complicated, and both users still have a lot of topic overlap. I'm not sure what the best way forward is here - I don't want to see D.18th punished because of an administrative error when nobody has raised an issue with their editing in months (as far as I'm aware, I haven't been keeping tabs), but at the same time what is now effectively a one-way interaction ban is untenable. My only thought is to also lift the interaction ban for Aidillia, but they have not asked (again as far as I know). Probably this should go back to the community again, and I'm happy to start that discussion unless you have any other thoughts? Courtesy ping Goldsztajn, Sennecaster and jlwoodwa who have also encountered this issue.
Cheers. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:25, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
I'm certainly not advocating they be punished for anything that happened after they were told their ban was listed, but I agree we either should remove the ban for both or reinstate it as two ways - but I think the community needs to decide. CoconutOctopus talk 22:29, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
I've had my fill of doing user conduct things for a while outside of my ADMINACCT responsibilities, so whatever outcome there is I don't expect much participation from me. This definitely should go back to the community, however. Sennecaster (Chat) 23:50, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Unbanned me

hey sir I think you by mistake me I don't know why the reason you give is false I don't know who the president is the president of Pakistan or president of America I abuse like the blame on me I never ever abuse anyone in my life I'm Muslim and abuse anyone is a sin in my religion if you don't want me to join Wikipedia then sample banned me don't blame me of anything I didn't do thank you Nasir Ul Deen (talk) 19:58, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Comment about Housing and Life in Canada

Dear User Ivanvector,

You were correct to "edit" my comments on Koavf's talkpage but unless you own a home, townhome or condo which you bought perhaps 15 or 20 years ago, many Canadians are facing an impossible housing situation sadly. If you see this 2025 rates.ca article: https://rates.ca/resources/how-much-money-do-you-need-to-buy-home-canada , it clearly says that a single homebuyer must earn $255,000 to even get a stress tested loan for a single family home in Metro Vancouver whereas in Metro Toronto, its $232,000. Halifax is a bit cheaper at $129,000 but the problem is anyone who earns an income that high faces an income tax rate of about 45-50+% in Canada.

I presently work as a real estate appraiser in Metro Vancouver and had to take a rear photo of a brand new high rise condo in August 2025...and sadly, there 3-4 homeless people sleeping on the ground near the area where I had to take the photo in Surrey, BC within Metro Vancouver...which was in front of a neighbouring low rise condo. Most people cannot afford to buy single family homes today in Metro Vancouver and it was never this bad under Harper or Chretien who kept immigration at between 250,000 to 310,000 a year. Townhomes and Condos are not cheap either today...not including strata. Inflation has impacted real estate prices. Both PM Chretien and Harper kept a reasonable and stable volume of immigrants to Canada until JT decided to increase it to almost 500,000 a year until Canadians had a backlash to his policies as the BBC reported here. The price boom happened with investor speculation on condos and with JT dramatically increasing immigration rates. So, JT--in his last year in power--finally cut immigration rates throughout Canada which has resulted in falling rents...but the problem is with inflation after covid, food and housing has stayed so much more expensive. I remember in the 1990s that some left wing activists in BC who did not like Walmart Canada expanding into their city or municipality complained about "the high cost of low prices" but today everything is expensive...and many people go to Dollarama or Costco--which incidentally is a US company for more value--just to get more value or to survive the hit to their wallet. Few people can afford to eat the recommended healthy Italian or Greek diet of olives and fresh vegetables which are quite expensive.

Meanwhile, more poor or low income Canadians are homeless in the large and small streets of Canada as this source notes: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/torontos-homeless-population-more-than-doubled-between-2021-and-2024-report

These are facts....and while I don't know PEI or Atlantic Canada, I suspected that you have homeless camps too in your 4 Atlantic provinces. In 2026, I may have to quit my job as there are too many real estate appraisers in Metro Vancouver...I am barely surviving on my salary--and I wonder if I can even get another job since I have high functioning autism and part time work won't help pay the bills. People with severe autism have to be hospitalised as they cannot even feed themselves but I am not in that situation. Life is quite hard. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 15:21, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

@Leoboudv: Wikipedia is not a platform for political soapboxing. If you do not stop bothering people with your anti-immigrant propaganda, you will be blocked from editing. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:54, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
  • Dear Ivanvector,

This is my last message to you. If you had even seen my userpage, you will have noticed that "I AM an Immigrant who was born in Malaysia." My parents and our family legally immigrated to Canada in 1989 under PM Mulroney but too many immigrants who come in a short period of time drives everyone's wages down and pushes housing prices or rents up which JT never considered. I used to work at the Langley, BC Real Canadian Superstore or "Loblaws" in Metro Vancouver between 1998 to 2008 when all the cashiers positions were manned by young women--who got many long hours and a good salary--but today most of them have been automated out of a job by self serving machines. So, what are young women supposed to do today to even earn money or afford a condo? I thought I could have a conversation with a fellow Canadian in PEI...on the cost of living and low wages...but I was wrong. I am sorry. It is my mistake. --Leoboudv (talk) 01:49, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello

I don't know if this is the right place. But I have one problem. Couple of editors Obsidian emiel (talk · contribs), one yesterday registered who does the same type of edits Chavelines (talk · contribs), and now I see one more IP ~2025-40480-26 (talk · contribs), (maybe all the same user, not making any accusation, just concerned about possible coordinated edditing or sockpuppetry) constantly add unsourced or poorly sourced content, removing sourced content and doing nonconstructive edits on the Conscription article. Do you have some advice what to do, where to report that users, how page can be protected, what can be done about if that is indeed some coordinated editing or sockpuppetry? Volodia.woldemar (talk) 18:53, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi Volodia.woldemar, you were right to be suspicious. Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Obsidian emiel. I have already completed that report, but if you see other new accounts that you suspect are the same user, you can submit a new report by following the instructions at WP:SPI. Thanks. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:22, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
Again, and on the same page, removal of sourced, seems the same editor while blocked editing, ~2025-41051-00 (talk · contribs). Volodia.woldemar (talk) 22:15, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
Yeah, that's pretty obvious. I have blocked the temporary account. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:32, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
I just made a report about that and I saw it was blocked. I am sorry, I never did so I was "practicing" how to do that Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Obsidian emiel. Volodia.woldemar (talk) 22:34, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
No problem at all, your report looks good. We call the "main" account in a sockpuppetry case the "sockmaster", and you don't need to include them in your report (the report goes under their name anyway), otherwise that all looks fine. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:39, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
Thank you. I will keep that on my mind. Obsidian emiel block is with an expiration time of 72 hours?Volodia.woldemar (talk) 22:44, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

User:Not Rehan Gamer socking again

Please look into their new SPI case, they are indeed again socking using their Commons account "Sense Dense" and contributing anonymously to avoid block here ~2025-40876-14 (talk) 11:00, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Plus forgot to mention they are abusing as well see their recent edit on Talk:Imran Khan#Change image ~2025-40876-14 (talk) 11:02, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
Handled, for now. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:23, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

multiple accounts and Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppetry

Hello,

Just wondering if something is amiss, Ivanvector? You repeatedly make proposals that mention "multiple accounts" as if my entire recent involvement isn't solely directed towards making the policy avoid conflating temporary and registered accounts now that WMF in their (in)finite wisdom have added another type of account than the only one that previously existed, the registered account.

You haven't objected to anything I have said, so it doesn't appear as if you disagree. But you wouldn't repeatedly suggest phrasings such as "You should always disclose if you're using multiple accounts" if you had considered how regular people would go "hang on, I'm using an account, do I need to disclose my temporary account changed last week???" and similar.

So I though to check in on you and ask if you had any thoughts you wanted to convey directly to me. Best regards, CapnZapp (talk) 00:49, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

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