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As I said, they are not allowed. This has to do with Copyright Laws, and we can not show fixtures. Accept it or get blocked. Qed237(talk)11:36, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
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Wikipedia as a free organisation can not take the risk of being put in front of court for not paying license fees so we should not list fixtures. Qed237(talk)13:50, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Whether or not you believe fixtures can be copyrighted is beside the point. For the Premier League, Football League and Scottish leagues, the formulation of the fixtures and the fixtures themselves are protected by intellectual property law and thus they cannot be replicated without a licence. For leagues covered by the Football DataCo licence, Fair Use permits us to list the team's very next fixture, but no more. This is easily searchable online, so I suggest you do that. – PeeJay13:53, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
If you wish to debate something with me, I suggest YOU reference the articles that back YOUR argument. Until then, stop wasting my time. Nuked (talk) 13:57, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Sir, you are the one wasting everyone else's time by making us clean up after you. You have been told by multiple experienced editors that you are in the wrong, so I suggest you get off your high horse, take our advice and stop. – PeeJay14:14, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Sir, I'm sure your experience with journalism means you appreciate the difference between just saying something is wrong and proving something is wrong. You and Qed237 have both expressed your disagreement with my stance, but neither of you have proven anything. And in fact it cannot be proven neither right or wrong, because it is a question of opinions. Whether you have seniority or not does not simply mean I am wrong. Plenty of users have, in the links posted to me by Qed237, expressed disagreement with these fixtures. And in fact one user referenced how a court case had ruled the fixtures "uncopyrightable" - what happened to the appeal I have not been able to find out. Until then, those fixtures stand. Unless of course you can ARGUE your point instead of just pulling seniority. Nuked (talk) 14:28, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
March 2016
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Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Qed237(talk)15:59, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
That's funny, you seem to be the one undoing my contributions, yet YOU post a notice to ME? As far as I can see, there is no reason you are more right than I am. Your only argument has been a couple of old discussions that were never resolved, much less reached any conclusion or consensus on. I suggest you post this same notice to yourself. Nuked (talk) 16:07, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
You should probably reread those links. The copyright eligibility is highly doubtful (in the last link a court case is referenced that suggests future fixtures are entirely ineligible for copyright) and there was never reached a consensus. Nuked (talk) 19:38, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Just for reference, the fixtures haven't been copyrighted since 2012 (see here), so feel free to add them (I have added them back to the Leicester article). Cheers, Number5713:54, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Dude, there have to be at least two parties to an "edit war" - you were definitely a party in that "war". I didn't know about the rule, I do now. I haven't reverted anything in the last 24 hours, but you continue your mindless reverting, even after you've been told by at least three users that future fixtures are not copyrighted! You're just as much at fault as I am, perhaps even more because you have been doing this for almost three years and ought to be well-versed in the rules. So get off your high horse! Nuked (talk) 15:35, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
And now I see that you've not been truthful and knew that future fixtures weren't under copyright anymore. You chose very selectively in linking the discussions, even though one of them still proved fixtures weren't copyrighted, and completely omitted a vital discussion (https://en.wikipedia.orghttps://wikious.com/en/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_88#Season_article_fixture_lists) that you were even a part of, and which proved, without shadow of a doubt, that fixtures aren't copyrighted. So if I've learned anything at all, it is that I don't want to be a part of the wikipedia editor community. Forpulede svensker! Nuked (talk) 17:15, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Don't be childish. No one has acted in bad faith here. I didn't know until today that fixtures could no longer be copyrighted, and I'm sure Qed237 was acting on the same out-of-date info (for the most part). By starting a discussion, we have sorted this out in a pretty quick manner, which is how Wikipedia is supposed to work. You can quit, sure, but you'll only be depriving yourself of future positive experiences of actually helping the site. – PeeJay21:55, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
You know what, fuck off, Peejay. You acted childish when you pulled rank/seniority rather than actually discussing the issue. I've never been an active part of the wikipedia editing community and I'm not starting now, because of Qed237 and you. Qed237 asked me to read four different discussions, the most recent one being from December of 2013, AFAIR. Now it turns out, he was a part of an even more recent discussion in which it is pretty clearly proven that future fixtures are not under copyright. Why the selective memory from qed237? Maybe because he's a stupid cunt, just like you. Probably, yeah. Now just fuck off. We have nothing more to say to each other. Nuked (talk) 23:05, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
I'd probably agree with you, if earlier in the discussions, PeeJay hadn't left this comment: "Sir, you are the one wasting everyone else's time by making us clean up after you. You have been told by multiple experienced editors that you are in the wrong, so I suggest you get off your high horse, take our advice and stop." THEY were the ones wasting MY time. THEY (the experienced editors) were the ones in the wrong. THEY needed to get off their high horses. AND in another comment he said "For leagues covered by the Football DataCo licence, Fair Use permits us to list the team's very next fixture, but no more. This is easily searchable online, so I suggest you do that." which, if he had actually done the search online which was so fucking easy according to him, he would have discovered just how wrong he was, fairly "easily". But he couldn't be bothered, and only told ME to look up HIS arguments. The gall is simply infuriating, and I needed to let off some steam. I doubt Peejay will even respond, so let's not get too bogged down on the details. He is a cunt and he should fuck off. Nuked (talk) 23:52, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
@Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: I don't know if you're trolling or not, so just to be clear, that comment wasn't directed at you. It was written 30 minutes before you commented. It was a reference to Peejay's claim that it was easy to look up online how future fixtures are copyrighted. Nuked (talk) 09:59, 14 March 2016 (UTC)