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Reporting DetectPromo false-positive

Holy_Trinity_Lock_II "leading" in phrase "leading to/leading from” is not promotional Plutus 💬 mess — Fortune favors the curious 05:39, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Plutus, Polygnotus is currently on a wikibreak; they've also requested to be blocked for a month and, so, can't respond. Salvio giuliano 06:20, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
Noted Plutus 💬 mess — Fortune favors the curious 06:24, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

Reporting DuplicateReferences false-positive

Genetic representation http://link.springer.com/10.1007/978-3-662-44874-8 Naruyoko (talk) 10:55, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Reporting DetectPromo false-positive

ALM_Flight_980 "massive" in phrase "massive de-acceleration" is not promotional birdn4t0r (talk) 01:24, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

Sub-referencing: News and request for feedback

Greetings from WMDE's Technical Wishes team. Today we've deployed sub-referencing to German Wikipedia, our first pilot wiki. A great milestone after so many years of work!

We'll continue to improve the feature based on community feedback and want to deploy to other pilot wikis in the upcoming months, once we've solved a couple of issues affecting many non-dewiki projects. You are invited to try sub-referencing on betawiki in the meantime.

We are currently thinking about how we could improve VisualEditor support for templates in sub-references if that's desired by the community. Read more about it on our talk page and share your feedback!

As always thank you very much for your support!

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Tech News: 2025-39

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  • On September 24th at 15:00 UTC, all Wikimedia sites users will experience a brief read-only period due to a scheduled datacenter server switchover. The Wikimedia Foundation's Site Reliability Engineering (SRE) team will redirect all traffic from one primary server to its backup. You can listen to the switchover using the "Listen to Wikipedia" tool, where you will hear edits stop for a few minutes during the read-only phase, then resume. This twice-yearly datacenter server switchover ensures reliability by testing the backup datacenter, so that our sites can stay online even if the primary datacenter fails. You can read more about the process on the Diff blog.

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  • Editors of 60 more Wiktionaries will soon be able to call functions from Wikifunctions and integrate them into their pages. A function takes one or more inputs and transforms them into a desired output, like adding numbers, converting miles to meters, calculating elapsed time, or declining a word into a case. They will join the other 65 Wiktionary language editions, which already have access to embedded Wikifunctions calls. Later this year, plans are in place to expand to more Wiktionaries and the Incubator.
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  • Beta users of the Wikipedia Android app can now try the redesigned Activity tab, which replaces the Edits tab. The new tab offers personalized insights into reading, editing, and donation activity, while simplifying navigation and making app use more engaging.
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  • Wikifunctions users can now import many essential facts involving geo-coordinates, quantities and time values from Wikidata. This is made possible by the creation of Wikifunctions types for these values, which makes them available for use by functions in Wikifunctions. Learn more about how this works in this video and Wikifunctions' August 1 newsletter (for quantities) and August 22 newsletter (for geo-coordinates).

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Block

Hi Polygnotus, I thought you were indef blocked and couldn't see the standard message. Got a fright, but everything is ok. See you in a month. scope_creepTalk 06:17, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

@Scope creep No worries, I just had to do some things in real life so I asked User:Salvio giuliano to block me for a bit so I could focus on 'em. Taking a break once in a while is good for my health. Polygnotus (talk) 18:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Welcome back and happy editing! Salvio giuliano 19:09, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! Polygnotus (talk) 19:39, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

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  • A major software upgrade has been made to Phabricator. The update introduces performance improvements, a refreshed search interface, enhancements to Maniphest task search, updates to user profile pages and project workboards, new Herald automation features, as well as general text input, mobile experience improvements and more.

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  • The Community Tech team will release the new Community Wishlist extension on October 1, that will improve the way wishes will be submitted. The new extension will allow users to add tags to their wishes to better categorise them, and (in a future iteration) to filter them by status, tags and focus areas. It will also be possible to support individual wishes again, as requested by the community in many instances. The old system will be retired. There will be a brief period of downtime while the extension is deployed and wishes are migrated to the new system. You can read more about this in the latest update or you can consult the current documentation on MediaWiki.
  • As announced on Diff blog, the production trial of the hCaptcha service for bot detection has begun. The trial is currently using hCaptcha to protect account creation on Chinese, Persian, Portuguese, Indonesian, Japanese, and Turkish Wikipedias, where it will replace our existing CAPTCHA (FancyCaptcha). The goal with the trial is to better block bots while also improving usability and accessibility for users who encounter CAPTCHA challenges.
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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 19

Here is a quick overview of highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation since our last issue on September 26. Please help translate.

Upcoming and current events and conversations
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Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Product Safety and Integrity · Readers · Research · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org

Dark Mode will soon be available on all Wikimedia sites.
  • Mobile Editing: Insights on mobile web editing on Wikipedia in 2025 are now available. This report highlights that ~95% of IP mobile users editing via wikitext open the editor but make no changes at all, a vast untapped potential. It also pinpoints where contributors most often drop off.
  • Dark Mode: Dark Mode user interface will be rolled out on all Wikimedia sites on October 29. All anonymous users of Wikimedia sites will have the option to activate a color scheme that features light-colored text on a dark background. This is designed to provide a more comfortable reading experience, especially in low-light situations.
  • Community wishlist extension: The new Community Wishlist extension has been released. This will allow users to add tags to their wishes to better categorise them, and (in a future iteration) to filter them by status, tags and focus areas. It will also be possible to support individual wishes again, as requested by the community in many instances.
  • Paste Check: 22 Wikis are now testing a new Edit Check feature, Paste Check, to help avoid and fight copyright violations. When editors paste text into an article, Paste Check prompts them to confirm the origin and licensing of the content.
  • Tone Check: The Wikimedia Foundation is working on a new check for newcomers: Tone check. Using a prediction model, this check will encourage editors to improve the tone of their edits.
  • Search Suggestions: Search Suggestions was deployed on English Wikipedia. Upon clicking an empty search bar, logged-out users see suggestions of articles for further reading. The feature is available on both desktop and mobile.
  • Unsupported Tools Working Group: A new Unsupported Tools Working Group has been formed to help prioritize and review requests for support of unmaintained extensions, gadgets, bots, and tools. The group has chosen Video2Commons as the first tool for its pilot cycle. The group will explore ways to improve and sustain the tool over the coming months.
  • Tech News: Read updates from Tech News week 40 and 41 including about Sub-referencing – a new feature to re-use references with different details.
  • Wikimedia Research Showcase: Don't miss the next Wikimedia Research Showcase, "Celebrating 13 Years: Wikidata's Role in Learning and Culture" taking place on October 15 at 16:30 UTC.

Annual Goals Progress on Volunteer Support
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Barnstar and Questions

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For talk page stalking on User talk:Oshwah and helping me write an entire script! HwyNerd Mike (tokk) 17:09, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

You deserve a fat barnstar. Also, is there any way to, like, invoke the script, or is it automatically invoked? HwyNerd Mike (tokk) 17:09, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

@HwyNerd Mike Thanks! JavaScript runs when the page is loaded. https://claude.ai/ is an LLM that can help with JavaScript.
You should add
importScript('User:HwyNerd Mike/Polygnotus.js');
to
User:HwyNerd Mike/common.js
to actually load the file.
Note that the output (HwyNerd Mike has edited in last 3 days: true) will be put in the browser console. To open it press F12, then click Console.
If you can't find the browser console, you can change
console.log(`${username} has edited in last ${days} days: ${result}`);
to
alert(`${username} has edited in last ${days} days: ${result}`);
in User:HwyNerd Mike/Polygnotus.js. Polygnotus (talk) 19:15, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
Some more links that may be useful:
Polygnotus (talk) 01:46, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! HwyNerd Mike (tokk) 01:49, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #702

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week leading up to 2025-10-20. Missed the previous one? See issue #701.

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The Signpost: 20 October 2025

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    Serial-killer miniseries, deceased scientist, government shutdowns and Sandalwood hit "Kantara" crowd the tubes.
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Comparing thoughts on WMF issues

Hello! I wanted to pick your brain about the Board election issue, specifically about how it compares to the censorship issue from a couple months ago where we disagreed. I have to conclude that I'm misunderstanding or missing something on my end. At that time, you were one of the main proponents of supporting the WMF's decision to accept the ruling and you said I am also not a lawyer, and I only have access to the publicly available information linked on this page. Which is why I find it difficult to judge if the WMF is doing the right thing. And since they have a legal department, and hire external lawyers, it seems reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt, right? and a few other statements to this effect. In my mind, the concerns of non-public information and institutional and legal expertise would also apply to the WMF's selection of Board members. But you're one of the main people standing against their removal from the ballot. I was wondering if you see this as applying to one and not the other on a fundamental level, or if it's a more practical matter like weighing pros and cons. For reference, your reaction to the Board issue is how I see both situations, except that I consider the censorship issue to be more existential in the long-term.

I was originally going to leave this as a comment under the Signpost article, but I worried it would cause drama or derail the conversation. I also get it if you don't want to drudge this up again. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 22:08, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

@Thebiguglyalien: Hi!
In general I try to give everyone, including the WMF, the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes I fail, but that is because I am a flawed human and not a perfect alien like you. Most people, generally speaking, are trying to do the right thing. I hope.
I think these cases are quite different (although I of course happily accept that I am a hypocrite, which in my view is not a bad thing to be). Which of my many hypocritical actions and statements confused you?
To give an example of the differences: Lane asked the WMF to publicly post their reasoning, and the WMF asked Lane to not disclose what they had told Lane. Which puts Lane in an awkward position; how can Lane refuse?
In the case of that office action we don't want the WMF to openly discuss their legal strategy (which could harm them and us in the future). We also want them to keep a bunch of secrets for privacy reasons. Being transparent is cool, but loose lips sink ships.
In that Office action case I felt a lot of the more extreme criticism of the WMF was unfair and based upon faulty reasoning, incorrect assumptions and a lack of understanding how the real world works (even if you are right you don't always get your way on this planet).
But you're one of the main people standing against their removal from the ballot. I objected to the removal of one of them (Lane), because the grounds upon which that decision was made were incomprehensible and/or incorrect. On the other hand I also wrote that I would've accepted "we don't like him, we don't want to work with him" as a valid reason, so the bar is REALLY low and they failed to clear even that.
In the other case I find it weird that they hadn't discovered these alleged social media posts (if they exist) because that is a normal part of due diligence and they probably could've handled it better, but I don't think they did enough wrong to be really mad about it, you know? It is just sad that we live in a world where such things happen.
I don't think the board of trustees thing has much to do with legal, as far as I know. I think its more about reducing the attack surface; the far right is gonna far right anyway.
So in my mind these are 2 rather different situations with little in common. I strongly believe the WMF was attempting to do the right thing in both cases.
As an alien, you have observed humans for a long time. You know how much we suck.
Hope that helps, if you give more specific examples of contradictory statements I can try to explain how my alleged brain works. Polygnotus (talk) 22:41, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
Cool! I just wanted to get your thoughts since we agreed on one issue but not the other. I don't think it's hypocritical, more that I was wondering where the divergence was. It helps to see the more specific aspects you're considering, so thanks for taking the time to reply. I do get that legal strategy can't be disclosed (that was the part I was okay with at the time), and I also believe that most people see themselves as trying to do the right thing. And trust me, Martian society isn't much better... they're the ones who stranded me on Earth after all! Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 23:50, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
Ha! Stranded! We both know you can leave any time you want. And you will once you've synthesized the tyridiam crystals, leaving chaos and destruction in your wake. Polygnotus (talk) 00:01, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
If the WMF does the right thing I will defend them, even if we don't get the result we want. If the WMF does something stupid I might criticize it.
I think that in both cases I criticized faulty reasoning, and I don't really care if the source is the WMF or the alleged community.
We desperately need the WMF to be on our team, and they don't really need us as much. Polygnotus (talk) 00:50, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Editsummaries

Information icon Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences. Thanks! Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:56, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

@Zackmann08 I was actually thinking of making a script that autogenerates editsummaries based on context clues. E.g. if someone is on a talkpage or noticeboard they are usually adding or revising a comment, and a script could handle that automatically. Polygnotus (talk) 22:47, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
I 100% support that! I have a number of scripts that autogenerate edit summaries when coming from a category page (see User:Zackmann08/category-links.js).
I have reverted a few of your edits because you didn't provide ANY indication of why content was removed... It looks like you are bulk removing Award sections... Is there a specific reason? To be clear, I'm not saying that material belongs on the page... Honestly I'm indifferent to that... But with I see a large red number in the edit history with zero explanation, it is a definite red flag. If you can link to some WP:MOS doc or something in your edit summary or at least say removing awards section that is purely WP:PROMO that would be very helpful. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:52, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
@Zackmann08 I used to have this canned editsummary script thing but I lost it. Have to look in to that again.
I assume you do that manually? Modern vandalfighting scripts use ORES so people don't really have to deal with that.
Yeah companies can pay to be part of an award program, and then they get an award. See for example https://bestinbizawards.com/entry-fees/ and https://wcwawards.com/registration/ and https://stevieawards.com/sales/entry-fees?from=mobile In the case of the Best in Biz thing its founded by someone with a background in "corporate communications". Its a win-win, the company pays a couple hundred dollar and then you can claim you are the exemplary best super person of the year, which might impress some people.
Gimme a sec I may be able to find it. Polygnotus (talk) 22:55, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
Again to be clear, I'm not objecting to WHAT you removed, but the way in which you are removing it. The process maters which is why edit summaries are so important. I use WP:JWB a LOT and do thousands of tiny edits that are clearly uncontroversial. But I still need to provide an edit summary.
I'm not going to go through your edit history and revert any more, but moving forward, PLEASE put an edit summary. Whether you are editing manually, using a tool like WP:AWB/WP:JWB or whatever the case may be. Please put a summary, especially when your edits are thousands of bytes. Even just saying copyvio as you did here is better than nothing. I see that and I assume you are removing WP:COPYVIO. If I see 8,000+ bytes removed from an article on my watchlist with ZERO edit summary, that is going to get reverted with a summary of unexplained content removal. I'm not alone in this camp (it's why {{uw-delete1}} through {{uw-delete4}} exist). And to be clear, I would do that if it was an Admin with 2 million edits to their name... This absolutely is not personal. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:07, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
Yeah I need to find a way to conveniently automate that. I am not a big fan of editsummaries because they slow me down and I always forget, but this is a problem that is fixable with a script. I wish we could add editsummaries in retrospect, via the API. And yes that edit was a little too close for comfort. Polygnotus (talk) 23:09, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
Have you considered using WP:JWB or WP:AWB?? If you are removing awards sections from multiple pages, you can just load a list of pages, enter a single edit summary and then edit away... It is MUCH faster.... Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:17, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
I considered making my own. So for example User:Polygnotus/Scripts/ListGenerator.js and User:Polygnotus/Scripts/ListGenerator2.js are me exploring in that direction. I am on Linux, and AWB has some weird WINE bugs. Someone should port that now that Micro$oft is dying. I should look into JWB, but I am not so sure it fits my workflow. Maybe I can tweak it a bit. In this case I started specifically with the Best in Biz awards, because its just a promotional tool, and then I discovered that those others are also promotional tools and not real awards. Capitalism is making me communist. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 23:23, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
Hey I'm on a freaking iPad and JWB works really well. I highly encourage you to give it a try... And yes, capitalism SUCKS. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:25, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
AI editsummary
@Zackmann08 Perhaps User:Polygnotus/Scripts/AI Editsummary.js is a step in the right direction. Not a finished product ofcourse, just an experiment. Polygnotus (talk) 10:46, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
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Wikidata weekly summary #703

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-10-27. Missed the previous one? See issue #702.

Discussions

Events

  • Upcoming events:
    • 🎉 Wikidata's 13th Birthday! Join us online, October 29 17:00 UTC (in your timezone) for presents, birthday messages, games...and a 📣surprise announcement (don't miss it!). 🎁 Add your own gifts to the list - anything that celebrates Wikidata and its amazing community... a script you’ve written, tool improvement, visual, poem...the sky's the limit. Get the call link here: 13th Birthday Presents & Messages call.
    • WikidataCon 2025, October 31 - November 2, make sure to register at the event page.
    • SPARQL workshop (in German): "From Zero to SPARQL. Eine Einführung in die Abfrage von Wissensgraphen (Schwerpunkt Wikidata)", 4 Nov 2025, 10-13, free and open to all, online via Zoom. more information and registration
    • The scholarship deadline for Wikimania 2026 is approaching fast: 31st of October. Apply today if you want to attend on a scholarship.

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • Nemo is a new Wikidata query tool by User:Markus Krötzsch the tool can answer queries, extracts subsets, and perform analyses in ways that SPARQL alone can't. It also lets you combine Wikidata with other data sources.

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know? 

(Q22530539) - lake in Abitibi-Témiscamingue, Canada

Development

  • Wikidata in Wikipedia and co:
    • We worked on making Wikidata change summaries in recent changes and watchlist on the other Wikimedia projects more understandable by adding icons. This will be rolled out soon (phab:T397258)
    • We continued the improvements to the Databox module (phab:T400322, phab:T400318)
  • Mobile statement editing: We continued working on editing references (phab:T405236) and did clean-ups for the beta release (phab:T405743)
  • GraphQL: We continued work on including labels of linked entities in responses
  • Dumps: We are looking into why dump generation is slower than it should be recently

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

Tech News: 2025-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • The Wikipedia iOS app has launched an A/B/C test of improvements made to the tabbed browsing feature for select regions and languages. The test, named “More dynamic tabs”, explores new tab experiences and includes “Did you know” and “Because you read” article recommendations. You can read more on the project page.
  • Autoconfirmed users on small and medium wikis with the CampaignEvents extension can now use Event Registration without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages.
  • Recurrent item View all 31 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the issue of flashing colors when holding or pressing the arrow keys under the dark mode settings in Vector 2022 has been fixed.

Updates for technical contributors

  • The CampaignEvents extension will be deployed to all remaining wikis during the week of 17 November 2025. The extension currently includes three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. For this rollout, Invitation List will not be enabled on Wikifunctions and MediaWiki unless requested by those communities. Visit the deployment page to learn more.
  • The SwaggerUI-based REST sandbox experience is now live on all wiki projects. The sandbox can be accessed through the Special:RestSandbox page. Please report any issues to the MediaWiki Interfaces team board, or join the discussion on the project launch page.
  • Transform endpoints with a trailing slash path in the MediaWiki REST API are now marked as deprecated. They will remain functional during this time, but removal is expected by the end of January 2026. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found and tested using the REST Sandbox. See the MediaWiki REST API Deprecation page for more detailed information about the API deprecation policies and procedures.
  • A dedicated changelog now exists for the MediaWiki REST API. The changelog provides an overview of these changes, making it easier for developers to keep track of improvements and iterations. Announcements will also continue to flow through the standard communication channels, including Tech News and email distribution lists, but can now be more easily referenced from a central location. If you have feedback about the style, structure, or content of this changelog, please join the discussion.
  • Administrators can delete the tracking category which was previously added by the JsonConfig extension, as it is no longer used. See the categories linked from Q130635582. It is OK if there are still pages listed in the category as that is just a caching issue, and they will be automatically cleared out the next time each page is edited.
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 20

Here is a quick overview of highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation since our last issue on October 11. Please help translate.

Upcoming and current events and conversations
Let's Talk continues


Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Product Safety and Integrity · Readers · Research · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org

The naming contest for the new Wikimedia project, known until now as Abstract Wikipedia, is ongoing.
  • Making it easier to say thanks: Users on most wikis will now have the ability to thank a comment directly from the talk page it appears on. Before this change, thanking could only be done by visiting the revision history of the talk page.
  • Account security: Improvements to account security and two-factor authentication (2FA) features were enabled across all wikis. Another part of the project is making 2FA generally available to all users. Along with editors with advanced privileges, such as administrators and bureaucrats, 40% of editors now have access to 2FA. You can check if you have access at Special:AccountSecurity.
  • Abstract Wikipedia: The naming contest for the new Wikimedia project, known until now as Abstract Wikipedia, is ongoing. Voting is now open until November 3.
  • Tech News: Read updates from Tech News week 42 and 43 including the community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
  • Wikimedia apps: The Wikipedia iOS App launched an A/B/C test of improvements to the Tabbed browsing feature into Beta for select regions & languages. Called “More dynamic tabs”, the experiment adds user-requested improvements and introduces article recommendations within the tabs overview, showing “Did you know” or “Because you read” content depending on how many tabs are open.
  • CampaignEvents extension: Campaignevents extension will be deployed to all remaining wikis during the week of 17 November 2025. The extension currently includes three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. For this rollout, Invitation List will not be enabled on Wikifunctions and MediaWiki unless requested by those communities.
  • Event registration tool: Autoconfirmed users on small and medium wikis with the extension can now use Event Registration without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages.


Annual Goals Progress on Volunteer Support
See also blogs: Global Advocacy blog · Global Advocacy Newsletter · Policy blog · WikiLearn News · list of movement events

  • Digital safety: Explore how you can help make Wikimedia safer by taking our new self-paced course, Safety for Young Wikimedians.
  • Wikimedia Core Curriculum: The Wikimedia Foundation has developed seven online video learning modules covering the core English Wikipedia policies. You are invited to use, adapt, and translate the course.
  • Advocacy: The Wikimedia Foundation has signed onto a statement that calls on governments and UN bodies to keep discussions about the future of internet governance accessible to non-government actors like industry and civil society. This statement is part of ongoing joint advocacy with affiliates to influence UN discussions about the future of internet governance such as the Global Digital Compact campaign and WSIS+20 deliberations.
  • GLAM: The Wikimedia Foundation and several affiliates have signed onto the Open Heritage Statement, which supports galleries, libraries, archives, and museums (GLAM institutions) to have the legal rights they need to collect, preserve, and provide access to cultural heritage.


Foundation statements


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Wikidata weekly summary #704

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-11-03. Missed the previous one? See issue #703.

Discussions

  • Closed request for adminship: Samoasambia
  • New requests for permissions/Bot: langCodesBot - Task(s): Python script to automate the cleanup of deprecated language codes (e.g., kr) from Wikidata items. Delete or move labels, descriptions, and aliases based on comparisons with fallback and related languages. The script uses the Pywikibot framework to process each item and logs cases it skips due to data inconsistencies or ambiguity to a CSV file for manual review.
  • New request for comments: Exhibition models by Hexatekin - This proposal focuses on standardizing models for art exhibitions. There is not a consistent data model used for art exhibitions that factors in parent-child relationships for traveling exhibitions, show series, or biennials, despite these being important and common types of events in international art history.

Events

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week The Wikidata Reference Validator by User:JosefAnthony helps check and replace broken or outdated references — keeping Wikidata’s knowledge verifiable and trustworthy. It checks whether external references are still accessible or offline, so we can ensure that every statement on Wikidata shows how we know what we know.

Other Noteworthy Stuff

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(Q167634) - political movement for reformation within the Communist Party of the Soviet Union during the 1980s, widely associated with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and his glasnost policy reform
  • Showcase Lexemes:baseline (L46097) - English noun (ˈbeɪslaɪn) meaning "a starting point for comparison", "a benchmark in budgeting", or "a reference line in typography or surveying"

Development

  • Mobile editing of statements: We are continuing the work on qualifiers and reference editing
  • GraphQL: We are continuing the work on making labels of linked entities available in GraphQL (phab:T404692)
  • Dumps: We are continuing to look into improvements for the dump process

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

Tech News: 2025-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Administrators will now find that Special:MergeHistory is now significantly more flexible about what it can merge. It can now merge sections taken from the middle of the history of the source (rather than only the start) and insert revisions anywhere in the history of the destination page (rather than only the start).
  • For users with "Automatically subscribe to topics" enabled in their preferences, starting a new topic or adding a reply to an existing topic will now subscribe them to replies to that topic. Previously, this would only happen if the DiscussionTools "Add topic" or "Reply" widgets were used. When DiscussionTools was originally launched existing accounts were not opted in to automatic topic subscriptions, so this change should primarily affect newer accounts and users who have deliberately changed their preferences since that time.
  • Scribunto modules can now be used to generate SVG images. This can be used to build charts, graphics and other visualizations dynamically through Lua, reducing the need to compose them externally and upload them as files.
  • Wikimedia sites now provide all anonymous users with the option to enable a dark mode color scheme, featuring light-colored text on a dark background. This enhancement aims to deliver a more enjoyable reading experience, especially in dimly lit environments.
  • Users with large watchlists have long faced timeouts when editing Special:EditWatchlist. The page now loads entries in smaller sections instead of all at once due to a paging update, allowing everyone to edit their watchlists smoothly. As part of the database update, sorting by expiry has been removed because it was over 100× slower than sorting by title. A community wish has been created to explore alternative ways to restore sort-by-expiry. If this feature is important to you, please support the wish!
  • Recurrent item View all 31 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the fixing of the persisting highlighting when using VisualEditor find and replace during a query.

Updates for technical contributors

  • Since 2019 the Wikimedia URL Shortener at https://w.wiki is available for all Wikimedia wikis to create short links to articles, permalinks, diffs, etc. It is available in the sidebar as "Get shortened URL". There are 30 wikis that also install an older "ShortUrl" extension. The old extension will soon be removed. This means /s/ URLs will not be advertised under article titles via HTML class="title-shortlink". The /s/ URLs will keep working.
  • On Thursday, October 30, the MediaWiki Interfaces and SRE Service Operations teams began rerouting Action API traffic through a common API gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the Service Ops team board.
  • MediaWiki Train deployments will pause for the final two weeks of 2025: 22 December and 29 December. Backport windows will also pause between Monday, 22 December 2025 and Thursday, 2 January 2026. A backport window is a scheduled time to add things like bug fixes and configuration changes. There are seven deployment trains remaining for 2025.
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

In depth

  • In 2025, the Wikimedia Foundation reported that AI systems and search engines increasingly use Wikipedia content without driving users to the site, contributing to an 8% drop in human pageviews compared to 2024. After detecting bots disguised as humans, Wikimedia updated its traffic data to reflect this shift. Read more about current user trends on Wikipedia in a Diff blog post.

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2025).

Administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

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Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

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Wikidata weekly summary #705

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-11-10. Missed the previous one? See issue #704.

Discussions

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • User:Difool/WikidataCleanup.js: gadget allowing to do, in one click, a wide series of cleanups in an item: normalize labels, descriptions, and aliases (double spaces, certain Unicode characters), remove weak references, remove weakly referenced dates when they have lower precision than a strongly referenced date and downgrade unnecessary preferred ranks; about the general issue of redundancies in Wikidata, you can check WikiProject Redundancy
  • Ghanasupremecases is a webapp that dynamically pulls and displays over 2,000 Supreme Court of Ghana cases from Wikidata, allowing users to access case details linked directly to Wikidata items. The goal is to make African legal data more open, structured, and discoverable, and to demonstrate how Wikidata can serve as a foundation for national-level legal archive

Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • Temporary accounts rollout: Starting November 12, the community will see logged‑out edits handled through temporary accounts instead of IPs, prompting tool and bot checks.
  • Help shape the future WikidatCon! If you attended WikidataCon 2025, please take 10 minutes to share your feedback in this anonymous GDPR-compliant survey (sslsurvey)

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Development The development team were involved in roadmap planning meetings so not much happened in the past week.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

Tech News: 2025-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages
Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.
  • Starting November 12, users will see a change in the appearance of talk pages on some Wikipedias. Almost all wikis have received this design change; English Wikipedia will get these changes later. You can read more on Diff. Users can opt out of these changes in their user preferences in "Show discussion activity".
  • MediaWiki can now display a page indicator automatically while a page is protected. This feature is disabled by default. It can be enabled by community request.
  • Using the "Show preview" or "Show changes" buttons in the wikitext editor will now carry over certain URL parameters like 'useskin', 'uselang' and 'section'. This update also fixes an issue where, if the browser crashed while previewing an edit to a single section, saving this edit could overwrite the entire page with just that section’s content.
  • Wikivoyage wikis can use colored map markers in the article text. The text of these markers will now be shown in contrasting black or white color, instead of always being white. Local workarounds for the problem can be removed.
  • The Activity tab in the Wikipedia Android app is now available for all users. The new tab offers personalized insights into reading, editing, and donation activity, while simplifying navigation and making app use more engaging.
  • The Reader Growth team is launching an experiment called "Image browsing" to test how to make it easier for readers to browse and discover images on Wikipedia articles. This experiment, a mobile-only A/B test, will go live on English Wikipedia in the week of November 17 and will run for four weeks, affecting 0.05% of users on English wiki. The test launched on November 3 on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese wikis, affecting up to 10% of users on those wikis.
  • Recurrent item View all 27 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example the inability to lock accounts on mobile sites has been fixed.

Updates for technical contributors

  • Nominations are open on Wikitech for new Toolforge standards committee members. The committee oversees the Toolforge Right to fork policy and Abandoned tool policy among other duties. Nominations will remain open through 2025-11-28.
  • The JWT issuer field in OAuth 2 access tokens for SUL wikis has been changed to https://meta.wikimedia.org. Old access tokens will still work.
  • The JWT subject field in OAuth 2 access tokens will soon change from <user id> to mw:<identity type>:<user id>, where <identity type> is typically CentralAuth: (for SUL wikis) or local:<wiki id> (for other wikis). This is to avoid conflicts between different user ID types, and to make OAuth 2 access tokens and the sessionJwt cookie more similar. Old access tokens will still work.
  • MediaWiki's block messages (blockedtext, blockedtext-partial, autoblockedtext, systemblockedtext, blockedtext-tempuser, autoblockedtext-tempuser) now support additional parameters indicating whether the user is blocked from editing their own user talk page $9 or emailing other users $10.
  • A REL1_45 branch for MediaWiki core and each of the extensions and skins in Wikimedia git has been created. This is the first step in the release process for MediaWiki 1.45.0, scheduled for late November 2025. If you are working on a critical bug fix or working on a new feature, you may need to take note of this change.
  • The process for generating CirrusSearch dumps has been updated due to slowing performance. If you encounter any issues migrating to the replacement dumps, please contact the Search Platform Team for support.
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 21

Here is a quick overview of highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation since our last issue on October 24. Please help translate.
Upcoming and current events and conversations
Let's Talk continues
Wikimania Santiago will happen in 2027.

Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Product Safety and Integrity · Readers · Research · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org

  • Tech News: Read updates from Tech News week 44 and 45 including the community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
  • Activity Tab: The Wikipedia Android app expands the new Activity tab to all users. It offers a complete view of your Wikipedia activity: reading time, saved articles, edits, and donation history (for known donors). This change aims to make Wikipedia a more engaging experience for readers and contributors alike, while keeping all personal data private and stored locally on your device.
  • Tabbed browsing: Tabbed browsing is now available on the Wikipedia App for iOS. Tabs will let you keep more than one article open at a time, making it easier to explore complex topics, follow links without losing your place, and pick up where you left off.
  • CampaignEvents extension: Autoconfirmed users on small and medium wikis with the CampaignEvents extension can now use Event Registration without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages.
  • Image browsing: The Wikimedia Foundation launched image browsing, an experiment that puts images on top of your Wikipedia article reading journey, on Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias.
  • Temporary accounts: Temporary Accounts are now enabled on 1,000+ projects including English Wikipedia.
  • Abstract Wikipedia naming contest: The first round of “abstract content wiki” naming vote has ended and the first legal review had begun to determine the 6 names that will make it to the second round on November 17.
  • Wikifunctions: Wikifunctions is now deployed across 12 Wiktionaries and 4 Wikipedias.

Annual Goals Progress on Volunteer Support
See also blogs: Global Advocacy blog · Global Advocacy Newsletter · Policy blog · WikiLearn News · list of movement events

Digital Safety Resource Center provides tips and tools to protect yourself online.

Foundation statements


Other Movement curated newsletters & news
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:05, 12 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello!

A few questions:

  • Was Need some cluebats plox referring to me? I'm not offended, just curious.
  • You clearly feel that Category:Transgender history in the United States should be much smaller than it is, and have suggested that a wider discussion would be necessary before this change could happen. Do you think, in advance of that discussion, that debating at length whether to include the specific example of Zizians is productive?
  • If yes, why?

Any one of those might sound like a rhetorical question, but none of them are. Thanks (: lp0 on fire () 19:52, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

!Lp0 on fire
  1. See wikt:cluebat and wikt:plox It is basically internet slang for incredibly old people. No it wasn't referring to any particular person.
  2. Nope
Very few debates on Wikipedia are actually productive. Polygnotus (talk) 19:55, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
That's a depressing take, and I like to think it's not entirely accurate. I'm probably wrong though .͡. lp0 on fire () 21:33, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
Not that depressing once you consider we are doing this for fun. And by this I mean both debating and writing an encyclopedia. When you have a good debate with someone on your level it can be a very enjoyable experience. On the other hand, debating an incompetent idiot may be frustrating at times. Usually both good and bad debates are not as productive as someone working on his/her own, but far less boring. Polygnotus (talk) 21:37, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
I personally think the productive aspect of a debate comes from the learning involved, rather than the outcome. If 50 editors participate in an RfC and close with consensus to change something, in principle that doesn't make the world any better than if one person makes an executive decision and there's no debate (hence why we have prod and not just AfD). The productive part of a debate is what people learn from it, whether that's learning about Wikipedia best practice, facts about the article subject, or something about human nature and what people do or don't find persuasive. I'm not really here to have fun; I'm here to make the world better by improving the world's most visible encyclopedia (and realistically also to procrastinate). While it's true that a single uncontroversial edit can make the world much better (rectifying a common misconception on Wikipedia can do a lot to improve the world, and who knows which vandalism reversion prevents what would have been the next Seigenthaler?), it's more likely that my single biggest contribution here will be making someone else realise how they can improve it too. The best debate is one that closes unanimously because all proponents of one opinion are persuaded by the other's arguments, but even if no one's mind is changed, I believe that people can learn a lot by going into a debate without their mind already being made up. lp0 on fire () 21:58, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
I personally think the productive aspect of a debate comes from the learning involved, rather than the outcome. Agreed, although we have few users who are able to actually critically look at their assumptions and change their opinion based on the information presented by others. Especially if they dislike that other person for whatever reason. Humans are not great at that kinda thing.
I think RfCs often devolve into a non-debate; a way to sidestep an actual debate, and I wish they were used far less. I've seen many RfCs where WP:RFCBEFORE was ignored (not in this case tho). I wish RfCs had both POVs posted side by side. I wish RfCs would explain the consequences of each option and how that would be achieved.
The best debate is one that hasn't happened because it didn't need to imo. Polygnotus (talk) 23:04, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
Some categories have a sentence or two at the top which explains which articles should and should not be in that category. I think it should be required for all categories to have such a "definition", because it is often unclear which articles are just outside of the scope. Unfortunately no one has added this requirement to the PaGaEs yet. Polygnotus (talk) 20:34, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
That sounds like a good suggestion; I would support it wholeheartedly. From what I've observed so far on Wikipedia, it seems like categories mostly exist as a way to waste people's time by getting them to argue about pages that most readers don't know about on the talk pages for articles that matter. lp0 on fire () 21:31, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
Exactly! Polygnotus (talk) 21:35, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #706

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-11-17. Missed the previous one? See issue #705.

Discussions

Events

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • ArchiveExternaLinks is a UserScript by Poro26. The UserScript automates the archiving of all external links present in an item, whether they appear in statements, references or identifiers. For each external link, the script automatically adds an archive link , similar to what is done on Wikipedia for web sources cited in references

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

  • Query examples:
  • Newest WikiProjects: WikiProject LGBTQ History - aims to improve and organize data related to the history, people, places, events, and organizations that have contributed to LGBTQ+ experiences across time and geography.
  • WikiProject Highlights:
    • 👩🔬Passionate about highlighting women's achievements? WikiProject Women is dedicated to creating and improving data about women worldwide. Help close the gender gap in knowledge! WikiProject Women
    • 🗳️ Interested in democracy and political data? Join WikiProject Elections to model data about elections, candidates, and results from around the globe. Make electoral data open and accessible! WikiProject Elections
    • 🏛️ How do you find info on government institutions? WikiProject Govdirectory has a structured data model for that! Help improve data about public agencies on Wikidata. WikiProject Govdirectory
    • 🎵 Into music? From classical to K-pop, WikiProject Music needs your expertise to harmonize data on songs, artists, and releases. Join the band! WikiProject Music
    • 🧬 Your skills can help model lifesaving data. WikiProject Medicine works on structured data for diseases, drugs, clinical trials, and anatomy. Join a project that matters. WikiProject Medicine
    • 🔍 Interested in how knowledge itself is structured? WikiProject Ontology delves into the fundamental classes and properties of Wikidata. Shape the backbone of the knowledge graph! WikiProject Ontology
  • Showcase Items: Aboriginal Australians (Q12060728) - First Nations people of Australia
  • Showcase Lexemes: ਦਿਮਾਗ਼ (L1078947) - Punjabi noun (dɪ.mäːɣ) meaning "brain (organ)", "intellect/mind", or "understanding/consciousness"

Development

  • Mobile statement editing:
    • We are working on editing statements that link to other entities in their value (phab:T403974, phab:T409149)
    • We enabled mobile statement editing as a beta feature on test.wikidata.org (phab:T407737)
  • GraphQL prototype: We finished the work on making labels of linked entities available (phab:T404692)
  • Dumps: We are continuing to work on making the dump process more robust

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks


Tech News: 2025-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • The Reader Experience team is experimenting with reading lists on mobile web, allowing logged-in readers with no edits to save private lists of articles for later. The experiment is running on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias since the week of 10 November, and will begin on English Wikipedia the week of 17 November.
  • Users who can’t receive their email verification code during login can now get help by submitting a form on a new special page. This update is part of the Account Security initiative. If your account has an email address, please make sure you still have access to it. When logging in from a new device or location without 2FA, you may be asked to enter a 6-digit code sent by email to finish logging in. Learn more.
  • One new wiki has been created: a Wikisource in Minangkabau (s:min:)
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Reporting DetectPromo false-positive

Physella_acuta "numerous" in phrase "The species presents a high diversity of shell shapes which led to numerous false species descriptions before the onset of molecular phylogenetic studies." is not promotional

Cool script, thanks for your work :)

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AE discussion closed

As you are likely aware, I have closed the AE discussion about you with the following summary: "Polygnotus is warned to be careful about their wording when soliciting input on discussions, and to communicate in good faith when concerns are raised with their editing". I meant to leave this note when I closed the AE discussion yesterday, but I got pulled away, apologies for that. As this is a logged warning it is appealable in the same way as CTOP sanction per the contentious topics procedures. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best, Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:35, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93 Well, I don't really know what that means. If you want I can explain my POV to you, but I doubt it would be a very productive use of our time. Since the "warning" appears to be meaningless its retraction would also be meaningless. Maybe I can help you write Werner Stertzenbach instead? Pretty interesting dude. Polygnotus (talk) 17:42, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
It means that you are reminded to use neutral and explicit language when inviting input on a discussion, and when your actions are challenged you are reminded to explain yourself in good faith (as I am doing) rather than casting aspersions on the competence of the challenger. A failure to do so would likely result in sanctions. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:46, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
User:Example is not a real user/human; just a test account.
casting aspersions on the competence of the challenger would be for example saying "User:Example is a r-------- f------ i----" and I did not do that. If you think I did, please provide a diff.
What I did is say that someone doesn't understand a guideline, and I provided multiple proofs of that, with quotes, so anyone can look at the guideline and compare them to the quotes and see that I am correct. Polygnotus (talk) 17:55, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
Also its probably a bad idea to ask me to use explicit language. please don't kill me this is a joke Polygnotus (talk) 18:12, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

WikiTextExpander

Hey! I wanted to try out User:Polygnotus/Scripts/WikiTextExpander, but it doesn't work if you have the beta feature "Improved Syntax Highlighting" (mw:Help:Extension:CodeMirror) enabled; it needs to target a different textarea that CodeMirror generates (I think, or maybe CM has an API to update the text). I'm going on a looong trip for like a week, so I'll only be able to create a patch after that; just letting you know in case you feel like fixing it yourself. Adios. — DVRTed (Talk) 20:13, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

@DVRTed What if I told you that I think that JavaScript is morally wrong and should be outlawed? You'd probably think I was joking. Anyway, maybe you can test User:Polygnotus/Scripts/WikiTextExpander2.js when you get back? Polygnotus (talk) 20:36, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, but it didn't work. Looks like there's no global "CodeMirror" variable even when it's enabled (different version?), so typeof CodeMirror !== 'undefined' is always false. I'll write a patch using something like this: Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests § Script for adding a References section in a few days. — DVRTed (Talk) 15:43, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Done here: User:DVRTed/sandbox/temp.js (diff). Also, off-topic, but you might enjoy reading through this amusing thread: https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/pull/14369. — DVRTed (Talk) 10:29, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
@DVRTed Thanks! I added it here and added you there.
Oh man I really like this Joel character. AI has a very deep understanding of how this code works. Please challenge me on this. He is also defending his actions on HN, with predictable results. Quote: Personally I would have those credits to generate hentai but to each his own i suppose.
The reason I like AI is the element of chaos, the fact we are asking a Markov chain things way beyond its capabilities, and are sometimes surprised. Polygnotus (talk) 12:03, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
Please join us over at Wikipedia:WikiProject AI Tools. Polygnotus (talk) 21:14, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

WikiProject activity solution

I saw your recent Wishlist discussion over at Meta, and methinks I've got something that may be helpful toward the end of seeing who is most recently active on a WikiProject. Earlier this year, I completed development of a Project Leaderboard for WikiProject Louisville. I'm planning to roll it out to a couple other projects I'm involved with as well. The code used for it can easily be copied and mildly revised for practically any other WikiProject. Membership/participant lists on many projects are definitely stale, but this report works past that to show who's truly doing the project work, while giving special acknowledgment to those on the lists. Let me know if this is something you find useful. I'd be happy to make a version of this for projects you care about. Stefen 𝕋ower's got the power!!1! Gab • Gruntwerk 04:02, 21 November 2025 (UTC)

@StefenTower Ooh that looks perfect! Do you think it is possible to scale that up to all active WikiProjects? Polygnotus (talk) 03:36, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Glad you like it. It's straightforward to make an individualized report for any active WikiProject. If alternatively you mean having a report covering all active projects in one, I'd say that is not as easy as it sounds to do, because 1) the database structure as it is would require a major rewrite of the query and it would be clunkier; and 2) rounding up all that data would likely run very slowly. If I'm misunderstanding what you're seeking, please give me more details. Stefen 𝕋ower's got the power!!1! Gab • Gruntwerk 04:25, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Reporting DetectPromo false-positive

Justus_Smith_Stearns "signature" in phrase "signature =" is not promotional. It's part of the infobox! Cheers :-) LR.127 (talk) 13:53, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Reporting DetectPromo false-positive

Quebec_Winter_Carnival "leading" in phrase "leading up" is not promotional LR.127 (talk) 17:44, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

I've removed it anyway from the article, as it was part of a (potentially) COI editor's contribution that was generally promotional. LR.127 (talk) 18:32, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Reporting DetectPromo false-positive

The_Nunda,_Eater_of_People "legendary" in phrase "Category:Legendary birds" is not promotional. Actually, all stuff in categories should be ignored. Sorry for the multiple new reports on your talk page LR.127 (talk) 18:31, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

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Mastercooks of Belgium

The best MJ, sorry Spiderman

Hello,

Thank you for reviewing the article I wrote. I have no problem removing promotional terms. But I have no idea what you're talking about. Could you help me out?

Thank you for your time. Orlando Davis (talk) 18:14, 28 November 2025 (UTC)

@Orlando Davis Sure, I can help. What is the question? Polygnotus (talk) 18:18, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
I think you are saying that the 1.1 million views (Kanal Z) don't matter because they are mainly because they broadcast football. (soccer) matches? Is that why you put up the tag? Can you back that assertion? Orlando Davis (talk) 18:21, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
That is what the source says? https://www.cim.be/fr/television?type=yearly_top_10_per_channel&year=2018&region=south
Search for the word "MASTERCOOKS" on that page.
Do you speak French? If not you can use Google Translate or claude.ai or something like that.
See also WP:SYNTH and WP:PROMO. Basically no one watched that stuff and you call it highly viewed because the red devils did well at some point. Polygnotus (talk) 18:26, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
I took French in high school, in addition I have a BA in Spanish.
ELEVEN FR is Football channel. That is different than Canal Z. A business channel that does not broadcast any football.
Are we good to go to take down the tag? Orlando Davis (talk) 18:30, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis What tag do you want to take down?
Do you see what I am saying about the viewership of Z MASTERCOOKS? Do you understand that calling it highly viewed is incorrect? Polygnotus (talk) 18:32, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Would you prefer if I say that in 2018, it was the second most viewed program on Canal Z? Orlando Davis (talk) 18:36, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis No, you need to stop promoting stuff. Wikipedia is not for promotion.
Can you explain why you think it makes sense to take the alleged weekly audience of two entire channels to make a SYNTH error about how popular a particular program is? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mastercooks_of_Belgium&diff=prev&oldid=1323016034
Have you read WP:SYNTH and WP:PROMO? Polygnotus (talk) 18:38, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
I think that the fact it was the second most viewed program in 2018, is just a fact. And facts are not promotion. Just like Messi winning 8 balon d or's is a fact, not promotion. See the difference? I have a good source. The 1.1 million is an irrelevant detail. If you think it matters to take it down, I will. Orlando Davis (talk) 18:42, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Does that reach consensus? Orlando Davis (talk) 18:43, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis Please read WP:CONSENSUS. And please confirm you have read WP:PROMO and WP:SYNTH. Thank you. Polygnotus (talk) 18:44, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
I offered to change it to the facts. Word for word from a reliable source. I know for a fact that is not promotional. Please point to specific issues you have with writing nearly word for word from a reliable source? How does that break WP: PROMO? Cite a quote from that page. Orlando Davis (talk) 18:54, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis Please don't ignore my questions.
I offered to change it to the facts. No, you can't do that, see WP:SYNTH and WP:OR and WP:PROMO.
This is an encyclopedia. The goal is not to promote stuff. Our articles should be written dry and dispassionately. Polygnotus (talk) 18:57, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
I am saying instead of hyping, we can simply cite accomplishments. Experience with sports pages thought me that this is the approach when there is disagreement. Orlando Davis (talk) 18:58, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis I answered your question. Can you please answer mine? Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 19:00, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Would you say this is promotional?
Lebron James
In addition to ranking fourth in NBA career assists and sixth in NBA career steals, James holds several individual honors, including four NBA MVP awards, four Finals MVP awards, the Rookie of the Year award, three All-Star Game MVP awards, the inaugural NBA Cup MVP, and the Olympics MVP in the 2024 Summer Olympics. A record 21-time All-Star and 21-time All-NBA selection (including a record 13 First Team selections), he has also made six All-Defensive Teams. The oldest active player in the NBA, he holds the record for the most NBA seasons played with 23 as well as playing the most minutes in league history.
We can follow this style in the Mastercooks page. Orlando Davis (talk) 19:00, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Please read WP:PROMO and WP:SYNTH and WP:CONSENSUS and WP:COPYVIO and then confirm that you have. Maybe even WP:INDENT.
Lebron James is irrelevant in this discussion.
Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 19:03, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Not sure I understand your question:
is this promotional? Why?
Michael Jordan
Jordan's individual accolades include six NBA Finals Most Valuable Player (MVP) awards, 10 NBA scoring titles (both all-time records), five NBA MVP awards, 10 All-NBA First Team designations, nine All-Defensive First Team honors, 14 NBA All-Star Game selections, and three NBA All-Star Game MVP awards. He holds the NBA records for career regular season scoring average (30.1 points per game) and career playoff scoring average (33.4 points per game). He is one of only eight players to achieve the basketball Triple Crown. In 1999, Jordan was named the 20th century's greatest North American athlete by ESPN and was second to Babe Ruth on the Associated Press' list of athletes of the century. Jordan was twice inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, once in 2009 for his individual career, and in 2010 as part of the 1992 United States men's Olympic basketball team ("The Dream Team"). The trophy for the NBA Most Valuable Player Award is named in his honor.
I am very collaborative. But you have to cite policy correctly. Orlando Davis (talk) 19:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Michael Jordan is also irrelevant in this discussion. If you refuse to read our policies and guidelines then Wikipedia is not as fun. I assure you, many of our policies and guidelines and essays contain valuable advice. They are worth reading. Polygnotus (talk) 19:06, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
We can replace hype with accomplishments. Stop policy page bombing and actually tell me which policy says that is wrong? Orlando Davis (talk) 19:07, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Find a quote in the policy page that says that please. Citing accomplishments is neutral. Orlando Davis (talk) 19:09, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
I think you don't know policy on neutrality. I am trying to train you. Orlando Davis (talk) 19:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
You are trying to train me? As a chef I hope? I can make a pretty decent pizza but other than that I am mostly hopeless. Teach me how to cook a decent steak please. Polygnotus (talk) 19:12, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
I am not a chef. I can't even cook anything. I write about stuff that has nothing to do with me, and more into guitar which I don't write about because I don't want to give free information. Don't take it personally, but it seems your view is what you like and don't like, not anything to do with policy. Orlando Davis (talk) 19:15, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis But I love empanadas and they are real expensive here. Like shockingly expensive. Maybe you can learn how to make empanadas and then you can teach me? I like the beef ones. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 19:20, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
They got minced beef, onion, garlic, bell pepper, raisin, olives (not too many, just enough), paprika powder, cumin I think you'd like them too. Polygnotus (talk) 19:25, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
I'm not a cook, but my mom makes some great empanadas. Orlando Davis (talk) 19:27, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
If she can turn me into a halfway decent cook my wife will give her a lifesize statue of herself in pure gold. Polygnotus (talk) 19:28, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
WP:COMMONSENSE explains that encyclopedia writing is more than just making a list of alleged facts. Polygnotus (talk) 19:14, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Fine. If I just say that there is a T.V show on Canal Z. Is that enough? No hype. I really don't want to waste time on this issue because I'm busy. Does that achieve consensus. Orlando Davis (talk) 19:17, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Do you have a reliable source for that claim? Please read WP:CONSENSUS. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 19:18, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Okay. I think I know what happened. I must have deleted this source by accident. Here: https://www.cim.be/fr/television?type=yearly_top_10_per_channel&year=2018&region=south Orlando Davis (talk) 19:24, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Well that source confirms a TV show with that name exists. You probably need one that confirms there is a connection, not just a similar name, if that is what you want to say. I guess. Polygnotus (talk) 19:26, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
https://www.roularta.be/nl/over-roularta/persberichten/topchefs-de-tweede-reeks-z-mastercooks Orlando Davis (talk) 19:30, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Excellent, a source that confirms the show exists and that there is a link. Polygnotus (talk) 19:31, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqrO6jPHgPg Orlando Davis (talk) 19:31, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Thats Michael Jackson not Michael Jordan. I understand the confusion; they look almost identical. Polygnotus (talk) 19:33, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
I've been an NBA addict my whole life. I know MJ. And I know both MJ's. I am more of a rock guy. Orlando Davis (talk) 19:34, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
So you agree that I can add that there is a Z-Mastercooks show? Orlando Davis (talk) 19:35, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Yes, the roularta.be source confirms that the show exists and that there is a connection between it and the Mastercooks. Polygnotus (talk) 19:37, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Ok. Thank you! Orlando Davis (talk) 19:37, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis After I cleaned up some of the promotional material, you added it back in. Can you please stop doing that? You wrote the article, now let others fix the problems please. Polygnotus (talk) 02:52, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis Please look at the article as it is currently. It is far from great, and contains many flaws and imperfections, but it stands a chance of surviving an AfD like this. We want only a boring dispassionate description.
See how the tone of the article has completely shifted? Instead of promotional it is now (mostly) factual. So please keep it like this and don't insert promotional text. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 03:38, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
You wrote about a back-to-school event but I can't find no evidence that such a thing ever existed. We do have but that just talks about their activities during the "rentrée" period (so after summer holiday). Polygnotus (talk) 04:46, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
I don't think I want to mess with article at this point. Even though I wrote it, it's Wikipedia's article. However, I believe I did source well. Here is the back to school event source: https://ccimag.be/2021/09/13/rentree-de-lassociation-the-mastercooks-of-belgium/
Thank you! Orlando Davis (talk) 23:30, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
Perhaps I deleted accidentally. Orlando Davis (talk) 23:34, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis Yeah so you invented an event that does not exist. The source says nothing about a back to school event, but you are relying on a machine translation. You used Google Translate, which is pretty bad at translating. Polygnotus (talk) 23:44, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
I did use google translate. You caught me. My bad. It was not an intentional mistake, like I just make up sources. I use the translator to read the news from different countries every day, and it usually sounds right. I appreciate your attention to detail. Orlando Davis (talk) 00:10, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis Yeah I don't recommend Google Translate because it kinda sucks (don't tell Google I said that they will be sad).
Instead of using Google Translate, try copypasting the article into Claude.ai. Suddenly there is no more back-to-school event.
If I ask ChatGPT what "rentrée" means it does correctly explain: In French, especially in Belgium and France, “rentrée” does not only refer to the start of the school year. It more broadly means: the return from summer break, the resumption of activities, the official start of a new season or working period.
Polygnotus (talk) 00:11, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
Got it! Thank you. Orlando Davis (talk) 00:26, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for the great editing work through the night (taking out the garbage) on Mastercooks of Belgium. Theroadislong (talk) 07:58, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
@Theroadislong Thank you! I am a firm believer in less is more (and all contradictory statements in general). Polygnotus (talk) 08:04, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
There are going to be similar issues with Draft:Michael Katz (chef) if accepted. Previously deleted here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Katz (chef). Theroadislong (talk) 08:16, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
Previously deleted after being nominated by some weirdo. Polygnotus (talk) 08:23, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
Ha! I hadn't noticed who nominated it! Theroadislong (talk) 08:25, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Choice made

See also this . If an admin does not block them first I will file at ANI later today. Thank you for cleaning up that Mastercooks article btw, that would have taken some patience. NicheSports (talk) 18:04, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

@NicheSports Thanks! Yeah it was ehm, an experience. My best and worst quality is that I am as stubborn as a dead mule. Polygnotus (talk) 18:07, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
I think fifteen's point was fair (as it often is) and I'm not going to respond at that ANI thread or on OD's talk page anymore. Hopefully this is resolved soon. Admins feel a bit MIA on this one. NicheSports (talk) 21:13, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
@NicheSports If I was an admin I would also hope someone else dealt with that wall of text. Polygnotus (talk) 21:15, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
Yo. Join me. Stop responding at ANI? Make me look good lol 😅 but woof I need a break from LLM patrol. Going to try some GA reviews to get on the other side (looking at some good content) NicheSports (talk) 21:27, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
@NicheSports I need to write Werner Stertzenbach. Polygnotus (talk) 21:32, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
I read the translated version from Deutsch wiki and was interesting. I am going to review a sumo article - back to my roots. I picked this username for a reason NicheSports (talk) 21:38, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
@NicheSports I once watched an explanation of Sumo wrestling on YouTube and it was genuinely interesting to see how similar and different it is compared to Judo. Polygnotus (talk) 21:54, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
Holy heck, what a saga, relieved that is over. Sorry you kept getting dragged like that. If you are ever interested check out the Don Don sumo channel on YouTube, he annotates fights and is chill NicheSports (talk) 00:45, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
@NicheSports Good news, it ain't over yet. 22 weeks ago I discovered that an LTA had accumulated tens of thousands of edits pushing an interesting worldview (did you know that left-wing academics control the world and are all evil? It was news to me.) Our buddy received one or more messages from that LTA (while they are globally locked, naughty!).
Thanks, I subscribed. Stuff like this is all levers, torque and the transfer of momentum. Polygnotus (talk) 01:14, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

disruptive editing

Consensus has not been reached on the Police Abolition or Bianca Censori pages. The LLM tag is not valid, as there is currently no formal guideline prohibiting its use on Wikipedia talk pages. If you believe I am incorrectly applying tags, you are welcome to bring it to an administrator’s attention. Orlando Davis (talk) 18:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

@Orlando Davis See the section above this one. Polygnotus (talk) 18:09, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Orlando Davis Re: "no formal guideline prohibiting its use on Wikipedia talk pages "see Wikipedia:LLMCOMM. Theroadislong (talk) 18:23, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
This is an essay: Wikipedia:LLMCOMM.
"It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints."
That page reflects the opinions of some Wikipedians; it is not a formal guideline. Orlando Davis (talk) 18:30, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
@Orlando Davis Pretty sure Theroadislong meant WP:AITALK. Polygnotus (talk) 20:31, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
Yes my apologies, "Comments that are obviously generated (not merely refined) by a large language model (LLM) or similar AI technology may be struck..." Theroadislong (talk) 20:34, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

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Reporting DetectPromo false-positive

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Wikidata weekly summary #708

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-12-01. Missed the previous one? See issue #707.

Discussions

Events

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • Nov 27: The Wikibase Community User Group met for a Wikibase Live Session and to discuss the Federated Values demonstration.

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Development

  • Mobile editing of statements:
    • We have added editing support for more data types (entity IDs, geographical shapes and tabular data).
    • It is now available as a beta feature on test.wikidata.org. You can enable it here.
  • Wikidata integration in Wikipedia and co: We are rolling out improvements to the Databox Lua module to a number of Wikipedias to make it easier to have out-of-the-box Wikidata-powered infoboxes
  • Ontology federation: We are making progress with making it possible to use Wikidata Item's as statement values in other Wikibase instances
  • GraphQL: We are continuing the work on the prototype, focusing on getting data from a batch of Items
  • Wikidata Query Service: The Wikidata Platform team is working on benchmarking of different replacement options for Blazegraph, the software powering the Wikidata Query Service

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Tech News: 2025-49

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025 will be available on December 2 for users of iOS and Android Wikipedia apps, featuring new personalized insights, updated reading highlights, and refreshed designs. Learn more on the review's project page.
  • The Growth team is working on improving the text and presentation of the Verification Email sent to new users to make them more welcoming, useful and informative. Some new text have been drafted for A/B testing and you can help by translating them. See Phabricator.
  • Add a link will now be deployed at Japanese, Urdu and Chinese Wikipedias on December 2. Add a link is based on a prediction model that suggests links to be added to articles. While this feature has already been available on most Wikipedias, the prediction model could not support certain languages. A new model has now been developed to handle these languages, and it will be gradually rolled out to other Wikipedias over time. If you would like to know more, please contact Trizek (WMF).
  • Recurrent item View all 34 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the issue where search boxes on some Commons pages showed no results due to switch from SpecialSearch to MediaSearch, has now been fixed.
  • Two new wikis have been created:

Updates for technical contributors

  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

In depth

  • The Wikimedia Foundation is in the early stages of exploring approaches to Article guidance. The initiative aims to identify interventions that could help new editors easily understand and apply existing Wikipedia practices and policies when creating an article. The project is in the exploration and early experimental design phase. All community members are encouraged to learn more about the project, and share their thoughts on the talk page.

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I see you are active at the Teahouse, so I put you in as a featured host (see Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host/Featured/10). Feel free to customize the picture to your liking. Interstellarity (talk) 15:39, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

@Interstellarity Thank you! I have added an image. Polygnotus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

Translated

Information icon Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you translated text from nl:Graf met de handjes to Grave with the Hands. While you are welcome to translate Wikipedia content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing requires that you provide attribution to the contributor(s) of the original article. When translating from a foreign-language Wikipedia article, this is supplied at a minimum in an edit summary on the page where you add translated content, identifying it as a translation and linking it to the source page. Sample wording for this is given here. If you forgot, or were not aware of this requirement, attribution must be given retroactively, for example:

NOTE: Content in the edit of 01:25, January 25, 2023 was translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at ]; see its history for attribution.

Retroactive attribution may be added using a dummy edit; see Repairing insufficient attribution. It is good practice, especially if translation is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{translated page}} template on the talk page of the destination article. If you have added translated content previously which was not attributed at the time it was added, you must add attribution retrospectively, even if it was a long time ago. You can read more about author attribution and the reasons for it at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🧸 07:20, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

@GreenLipstickLesbian I started the article, but as far as I can remember I didn't actually use the Dutch article. I don't see Wikipedia as a reliable source so I am more likely to just use the sources themselves. I can add a null edit tho if you like. Polygnotus (talk) 07:23, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
There's no need, I did that for you.
Meaning no disrespect to your memory (mine's rubbish), I'd find it hard to believe that you didn't draw from the Dutch article: compare this revision with , and if you'd like a particular example them look at the paragraphs:

The cemetery Nabij Kapel in ’t Zand, colloquially known as "Oude Kerkhof" (the 'Old Cemetery'), originally served as a Jewish burial ground. By the late 18th century, it was expanded to accommodate other residents of Roermond. Architect Pierre Cuypers undertook a redesign of the cemetery in 1858, creating separate sections for Catholic and Protestant burials, divided by a wall.

(from the former)
and

The cemetery "Nabij de Kapel in 't Zand," popularly known as the "Oude Kerkhof," was originally a Jewish cemetery. At the end of the 18th century, it was expanded to include burial space for other residents of Roermond. Architect Pierre Cuypers redesigned the cemetery in 1858. Among other things, a Catholic and a Reformed section were established, separated by a wall.

(from the latter)
GreenLipstickLesbian💌🧸 07:28, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
@GreenLipstickLesbian Thanks. It is certainly possible, but I can't really give a definitive answer so I go with a politicians "can't confirm or deny".
It is also possible this comes from the same source. I probably still have the backup in cold storage somewhere, so I could probably look it up if you want, but I do not remember so far back. Polygnotus (talk) 07:33, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
"Never believe anything until it's been officially denied", that's my motto!
Possible, but I hope not. I translate articles from other Wikipedias sometimes (though not for a while - Lee Dong-hwan (diplomat) is my last, I believe). It's fine. You have to check and source everything, but it's free content so you can pretty much do what you like with it. Unless your same source happens to be public domain, learning that you both took closely from a 3rd party source would be very scary. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🧸 07:40, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
@GreenLipstickLesbian My wife wins every discussion because she just sounds so confident and I have no clue if what she is claiming (but you said...) is true or not so I just fold in every debate. If she wanted to she could take advantage of my terrible memory so I just have to hope she doesn't. Polygnotus (talk) 07:52, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #709

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-12-08. Missed the previous one? See issue #708.

Discussions

Events

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

Other Noteworthy Stuff

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Development

  • Mobile statement editing:
    • It's now possible to edit existing references (phab:T405236)
    • We fixed a number of issues such as a problem when adding the first statements to an item (phab:T409069)
    • We started work on showing constraint violation indicators (phab:T400676)
    • We're working on showing errors in the edit form (phab:T408928)
    • We're improving the edit summaries (phab:T411247)
  • Wikidata integration in the Wikimedia projects: We continued working on improvements to the Databox Lua module and template
  • GraphQL: We continued working on the first version of GraphQL support

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2025).

Administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

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Technical news

  • Starting on November 4, the IP addresses of logged-out editors are no longer being publicly displayed. Instead, they will have a temporary account associated with their edits.
  • Administrators will now find that Special:MergeHistory is now significantly more flexible about what it can merge. It can now merge sections taken from the middle of the history of the source (rather than only the start) and insert revisions anywhere in the history of the destination page (rather than only the start). T382958

Miscellaneous

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Tech News: 2025-50

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

  • Anybody who wishes to secure their user account can now use two-factor authentication (2FA). This is available to all registered users of all Wikimedia projects. This is part of the Account Security initiative. Later, 2FA will be required for all users who can take security- or privacy-sensitive actions.

Updates for editors

  • Following last week's deployments, the Add a link feature, which allows editors to add suggested links during editing, will be available to an additional 33 Wikipedias starting on 9 December. This expansion is possible thanks to the new prediction model that now supports all languages, including those that were previously not covered. While the feature has been available on most Wikipedias for some time, this rollout brings us closer to using the improved model everywhere. If you have any questions or would like more details please contact Trizek (WMF).
  • Last week, the Search Platform team added transliterated as-you-type search suggestions to Georgian wikis. If there are only a few regular search suggestions, then queries in Latin or Cyrillic script are now rewritten into Georgian script to look for more matches. For example, searching for either bedniereba or бедниереба will now suggest the existing article about ბედნიერება ("happiness"). You can recommend other languages where transliterated suggestions would be useful on Phabricator for future development.
  • Later this week, a controlled experiment will begin for editors on the 100 largest Wikipedias who are editing a section in the mobile web visual editor. 50% of these editors will notice a new "Edit full page" button that will enable them to expand their editing session to the whole page. This feature is intended to make it easier for people on mobile web to edit any article section, regardless of which section-edit icon they tapped to begin. The experiment will last ~4 weeks. You can find more details about the project.
  • Later this week, the Reader Growth team will launch a mobile web experiment to expand all article sections by default (currently they are collapsed by default) and pin the section header the user is currently reading to the top of the page. The experiment will affect 10% of users on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias.
  • The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025, a feature in the Wikipedia mobile apps (iOS and Android) that provides users with a personalised summary of their engagement with Wikipedia over the year, is now available on the iOS and Android apps. This edition includes expanded personalised insights, improved reading highlights, new donor messaging, and updated designs. Open the app to view your Year in Review and explore your reading journey from 2025.
  • A recent software bug caused edits made with VisualEditor to make unintended changes to wikitext, including removing whitespace and replacing spaces with underscores in wikilinks inside citations. This was partially fixed last week, and further fixes are in progress. Editors who used VisualEditor between November 28 and December 2 should review their edits for unexpected modifications.
  • Recurrent item View all 23 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the incorrect handling of URLs copied from the address bar of Microsoft Edge users, has been resolved.

Updates for technical contributors

  • Starting this week, users of the "Improved Syntax Highlighting" beta feature will have CodeMirror as the editor for Lua, JavaScript, CSS, JSON and Vue content models, instead of CodeEditor. With this, the linters will be upgraded. This is part of a larger effort to eventually replace CodeEditor and provide a consistent code editing experience.
  • Developers are encouraged to take the 2025 Developer Satisfaction Survey, which remains open until 5 January 2026. If you build software for the Wikimedia ecosystem and would like to share your experiences or feedback, your participation is greatly appreciated.
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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Reporting DuplicateReferences false-positive

Gregory Retallack https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1995Pbio...21..393W — GreenC 18:16, 9 December 2025 (UTC)

Claude vs Gemini

Thanks for the info. I haven't tried Gemini, will do so soon. Do you think Claude is better? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:31, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@Piotrus Less bad. I strongly prefer Claude. Polygnotus (talk) 15:40, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
In that case, I would gladly take the key if you have working ones to share. Best email me at my name at gmail. TIA. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:03, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
@Piotrus Take what you received by email and add this to it -7Iw3jtUTRRTeDG5ktvNPczCD6w-uEXo1QAA and then you have a working Claude key. Autoreload is disabled and you got a couple bucks. Polygnotus (talk) 01:17, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. Any estimate what is the cost of a single article run? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:57, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
@Piotrus 2 or 3 USD cents maybe? Depends a bit on the length of the article. You can do about 160 articles with what is left in the account I think. Polygnotus (talk) 10:57, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 23

Here is a quick overview of highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation since our last issue on November 21. This will be the final bulletin for 2025 and we'll be back in late January 2026 with the next issue. Please help translate.

Upcoming and current events and conversations
Let's Talk continues

  • CEO appointment: The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees has appointed Bernadette Meehan as the new CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation. She will be meeting communities around the puzzle globe when she officially joins on January 20, 2026.
  • Wikipedia's 25th birthday party: Join the virtual celebration for games, prizes, musical performances, volunteer spotlights, data visualization, surprise guests and more. January 15 at 16:00 UTC. Register on Meta.
  • Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees: Join the next Conversation with the Trustees on December 11 at 17:30 UTC.

Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Product Safety and Integrity · Readers · Research · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org

  • Wishathon: 15 patches were written and 5 merged, as part of a Wishathon for the Community Wishlist. One wish from the community was completed ("Preview page with this template" should not work with pages that do not transclude the template), and three more now have a clearer path forward.
  • Activity Tab on Mobile App: The Wikipedia iOS app is running an experiment that replaces the History tab with a redesigned Activity tab. This new tab surfaces personalized insights about reading, editing, and donations — all stored locally on your device for privacy. The goal is to see whether the new experience increases engagement and retention among logged-in readers.
  • Wikipedia Year in Review in Apps: The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025 is now available for the iOS and Android apps. This year introduces new personalized insights, updated reading highlights, and refreshed designs.
  • Add a Link: A feature that suggests links to be added to articles based on a prediction model, Add a link, has been deployed at Japanese, Urdu and Chinese Wikipedias. While this feature has already been available on most Wikipedias, the prediction model could not support certain languages. A new model has now been developed to handle these languages, and it will be gradually rolled out to other Wikipedias over time.
  • Abstract Wikipedia: The second round of voting on the name of Abstract Wikipedia concluded with Abstract Wikipedia as the top-voted name with 100 votes, followed by Wikigenerator with 91 votes. The name for the wiki project will now remain Abstract Wikipedia.
  • Anti-vandalism tool: Automoderator, now has the option to choose between two machine learning models to power the software on wikis using the tool.
  • Tools to support newcomers: Newcomers failing to add a citation to support added content has been one of the most common mistakes on Wikipedia. Reference Check, a tool that prompts them to add a citation before publishing an edit, has gone live for an A/B test on English Wikipedia.
  • Tech News: Latest updates from Tech News week 48 and week 49 include the Foundation working on improving the text and presentation of the Verification Email sent to new users to make them more welcoming, useful, and informative; and two new wikis being created: a Wikipedia in Toki Pona and a Wikiquote in Nigerian Pidgin.
  • Infrastructure: Unifying our mobile and desktop domains achieved 20% faster mobile response times, improved SEO, and reduced infrastructure load.

Annual Goals Progress on Volunteer Support
See also blogs: Global Advocacy blog · Global Advocacy Newsletter · Policy blog · WikiLearn News · list of movement events

  • Legal win in France: Wikimedia Foundation secures crucial legal win in France against legal attacks on freedom of speech.
  • CEE Hub: Overview of three years of growth, learning, and regional impact of CEE Hub.
  • Don't Blink: The latest developments from around the world about protecting the Wikimedia model, its people and its values.
  • Digital Violence: How the Wikimedia movement is responding to digital gender based violence.
  • Wikimedia Research Showcase: The next research showcase will feature a special panel on "Experimentation on Wikipedia" and will take place on December 10 at 17:30 UTC.

Annual Goals Progress on Effectiveness
See also: Progress on the annual plan

Board and Board committee updates
See Wikimedia Foundation Board noticeboard · Affiliations Committee Newsletter

Foundation statements


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Pilot deviation

Hello. About 16 days ago, you reached out to me saying that you wanted me to "take a look for errors and omissions" in Pilot deviation. And you later said, "I find it difficult writing about a topic I am no expert in." which, I think, casually means that you're calling me an expert in that subject of article.... no? So I was just curious as to why you reached out to me and how you knew I basically existed since we never interacted before. I'm not saying that "Why in the world did you reach out to me?", I'm just saying, "Huh, I'm curious why you reached out to me, very interesting". No offense given here, just purely curiosity. Thank you. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 19:35, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Actually, yes, we technically did interact before. I use your duplicate ref detector script and it's really great and helpful. Thank you for that. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 19:36, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
@Ivebeenhacked Hi! Hm, I don't really remember and I don't store my browser history that long. Possibly because you were listed on WikiProject Aviation and I liked your username? I am not sure. Polygnotus (talk) 22:55, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
Okay, I understand. I was just being curious. Thank you. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 22:58, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #710

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-12-15. Missed the previous one? See issue #709.

Discussions

Events

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • Broomstick - Broomstick is a tool to uncover Lexemes that can be improved on Wikidata.

Other Noteworthy Stuff

Newest properties and property proposals to review

You can comment on all open property proposals!

Did you know?

Development

  • Edit summaries: We made changes that will improve the automatic edit summaries of edits made using the wbeditentity API endpoint. Tools that use this endpoint to edit statements will, in some cases, now have more accurate edit summaries; this also affects how such edits are summarized in edit groups. (phab:T411247)
  • Wikidata integration in the Wikimedia projects: We are collecting feedback from the first wikis who got the new and improved Databox module.
  • Mobile statement editing:
    • We are making remaining changes for the first roll-out as a beta-feature.
    • We are working on showing constraint violations. (phab:T411602, phab:T400676)
  • GraphQL: We are working on making it possible to query for Items by Property/value pair (phab:T403576)
  • REST API: We are improving error messages for requests that failed due to an IP block (phab:T404727)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

Tech News: 2025-51

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Recurrent item View all 18 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, one of the fixes addressed an issue for temporary accounts adding an external URL, which triggered an hCaptcha request in more cases than intended, and did not display the required popup on the first attempt to publish the edit.

Updates for technical contributors

  • To improve database and site performance, external links to Wikimedia projects will no longer be stored in the database. This means they will not be searchable in Special:LinkSearch, will not be checked by the Spam Blacklist or AbuseFilter as new links, and will not be in the externallinks table on database replicas. In the future this may be extended to other highly-linked trusted websites on a per-wiki basis, such as Creative Commons links on Wikimedia Commons.
  • Recurrent item Detailed code updates later this week: MediaWiki

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Test

This is a test. PolygnotusTest (talk) 21:11, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

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