February 13
Archelaus I of Macedon
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Category:Jewish refugees in Asia
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Merge for now. We don't *really* have sufficient content to diffuse by continent. Mason (talk) 20:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Bisexual politicians by nationality
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Template:Barelvi-stub
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:42, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Stub template of unclear necessity. It's used on just two articles, neither of which need it as they're not actually short enough to warrant being tagged as stubs at all -- and while the template itself is a couple of months old, within the past couple of days somebody attempted to make it sort its entries into a dedicated "Barelvi stubs" category that doesn't exist, which I had to revert because redlinked categories are forbidden (meaning I couldn't just leave it there) but stub categories can't be created for just two pages, and require a minimum of 60. So for all of those reasons, it's unclear whether even the template is necessary. Bearcat (talk) 20:04, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Armenian immigration to Uruguay
Category:Films with screenplays by Ian Briggs
Category:Hispanic Belizean
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Category:Syrian Turkmen
Category:Ulster Scottish
Category:Egyptian cricketers
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Category:Lists of tallest buildings in Southeast Asia
Category:1880s initial public offerings
Category:Treasure troves in South Korea
Category:Afro-Indigenous
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Category:Sports broadcasters
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- The result of the discussion was: merge leaving a redirect. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This is a duplicate category which uses a different term and, IMO, doesn't help in navigation. There is just about no difference between a sports "broadcaster", "announcer", and "commentator" except that countries prefer one term over the other AND that the term used differs by sport. I wouldn't create three different categories for what is basically the same job. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support, but I think we should leave a redirect. Mason (talk) 12:45, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:20, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:18th-century Dutch political philosophers
Category:Tower Theater
Category:Hazbin Hotel demons
Category:Capital Cup (soccer)
Category:Non-free The New Yorker magazine covers
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:34, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: These are not-free images which we are claiming fair use protection. Fair use means using the image as conservatively as possible, and they must be a topic of discussion (or serve an identification role). We cannot use the cover of "Dark Side of the Moon" to illustrate the article Prism, etc. Making them easily accessible for people to browse them out of context is beyond our claim of fair use. Categories and lists are similar in many ways. Would we have an illustrated article "List of non-free New Yorker Covers"?
Herostratus (talk) 02:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. We can just add a No gallery template. The purpose of categories is to help navigation and to facilitate maintenance. Mason (talk) 06:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- OK, but it already has the appropriate magic word. But wait, I see the issue. If the cover has its own article then it is obviously discussed in context and categorization in the article page (not the file page itself) is OK I would think. You're not directing the reader to a page where a copyrighted image is not discussed. If the image does not have its own article but is used and discussed in article X, then there should be a redirect page directing to the appropriate section of article X, and the category should be added to the redirect page (only). If there doesn't exist an article where the image is discussed (but is shown), we shouldn't be hosting that image.
- Possibly you could put the discussion/exposition in the "other info" field of the image file page itself, altho I'm skeptical that this would be OK.
- I'm skeptical that any non-free image files should be put into nonhidden categories. Perhaps hidden categories could be added to the image, for maintenance. There may be exceptions, IDK.
- Complicated. Probably this is something that should be taken up with the copyright people on the copyright talk page. So I guess it'd be OK (but not really necessary) if you close this request and I could go there.
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Category:Songs from films
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- The result of the discussion was: duplicate. (non-admin closure) QueenofHearts 21:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The target category (Category:Songs written for films) has a very different scope, to the point that I think this redirect is problematic. Namely, people might reasonably put a song in this category because it was in some film at one point, only for it to be recategorized as if it was written for the film. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Australian Thelemites
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- The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 02:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Fuels phase-out
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is unhelpful for navigation with only a single category in it Mason (talk) 02:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Fuel subsidies
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 03:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now, this category is unhelpful for navigation. This was opposed at speedy for not being entirely eponymous. @Ymblanter: Mason (talk) 02:14, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Local elections in Tanzania
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- The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:28, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one page in category. Let'srun (talk) 03:08, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge, also to Category:College football players in the United States. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support dual merge Mason (talk) 14:56, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep part of a very-well established parent category. WP:SMALLCAT is no longer consensus and there is no rationale provided. You will notice that Category:College football players in the United States is now basically a container category as it contains no articles.--User:Namiba 17:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Namiba. Jweiss11 (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, per Namiba. Would disrupt a decade-plus old categorization scheme and strong oppose merger to the U.S. category, as that would cause disorder among a very well-maintained 19-year-old category that functions only as a container category. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- For the closer, please note that the keep voters are part of the college football WikiProject and are lacking basis in policy. Let'srun (talk) 01:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Namiba is not a member of the college football project; I don't find advocating for order and a common sense outcome to be "lacking basis in policy". Can you point to the criteria that states all categories under a certain number of articles are required to be deleted, no matter the fact that it has been consensus for nearly two decades to do it this way? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:17, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see any problem with editors being in a related Wikiproject, as long as there's no WP:CANVAS. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Dual Merge per WP:NARROWCAT. The fact that this category created in 2016 still has 1 entry shows it's not aiding navigation, not that it has too much seniority to be deleted. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:34, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per Marcocapelle. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- This has much, much more use in navigation than merging to "College football players in the United States"; I think nearly everyone would agree with me that if someone was looking for Frederick Lions players, and they knew that the categorization scheme was players by team, they would search "Frederick Lions football players": it would make no sense that they would search for "College football players in the United States", an immensely broad category with the potential for tens of thousands of articles if not for the orderly way that this would be disrupting. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:24, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hence the dual merge to Category:Frederick Lions athletes. If a few more more relevant biography articles are created to avoid WP:NARROWCAT, by all means recreate this category since it will then start serving a navigational function. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:29, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per above. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Songs from films
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The target category (Category:Songs written for films) has a very different scope, to the point that I think this redirect is problematic. Namely, people might reasonably put a song in this category because it was in some film at one point, only for it to be recategorized as if it was written for the film. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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