Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 16

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July 16

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 16, 2020.

Erik Nyberg

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Eric Nyberg. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 02:54, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Big culprit on the WP:Broken section anchors page. None of these dancers are actually mentioned at the target any longer. Even when they were mentioned (see this last version before removal), the mentions were copyright violations (the entire page history has a big copyright violation history). Click on any of those name links, and it will almost surely take you to a profile with the exact same content verbatim. 2pou (talk) 22:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Note this was split from the nomination below, I've copied the relevant portion of the nomination rationale. Thryduulf (talk) 23:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete or retarget. There is a muscian by this name who might be notable and or might be the same person as the dancer (I've not looked in enough detail to be certain either way). If they are notable this would suggest deletion to encourage the creation of an article. However, there is a different person, Eric Nyberg, a professor who definitely is notable and this is a very plausible misspelling of his name, so if the musician and/or dancer are not notable then I would suggest retargetting to the professor's article. Thryduulf (talk) 23:40, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Eric Nyberg. Thank you for such diligence in the cross checking, Thryduulf! I think red link encouragement of an article creation is less likely in this case with no links out there in the main space as things stand right now. -2pou (talk) 23:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Eric Nyberg as {{R from misspelling}}. If any editor thinks that one of the Eriks is notable, they can overwrite this redirect and cross-hatnote the pages. Narky Blert (talk) 07:26, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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Danish Dance Theatre Dancers

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Big culprit on the WP:Broken section anchors page. None of these dancers are actually mentioned at the target any longer. Even when they were mentioned (see this last version before removal), the mentions were copyright violations (the entire page history has a big copyright violation history). Click on any of those name links, and it will almost surely take you to a profile with the exact same content verbatim. (I stopped checking after three or four).

I considered sparing the bottom three since they at least had incoming links, but looking closer, they are not worth keeping, either. The last only has incoming links from a rally car driver, so the link is misleading anyway. The other two should become red links to encourage creating an article if they're truly notable.

Regards, 2pou (talk) 22:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC) 2pou (talk) 22:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Note I've split Erik Nyberg out into a seprate discussion as there are additional considerations that are worth discussing separately.Thryduulf (talk) 23:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete all. Milou Nuyens is likely notable and has a lot of incomming links, but nothing significnat enough to anchor a redirect. Alessandro Sousa Pereira also has correct incoming links but again there is nothing to anchor a redirect. None of the others have links or mentions anywhere. Thryduulf (talk) 23:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Tralfagar

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The result of the discussion was keep -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:27, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Implausible typo Joseph2302 (talk) 20:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep; plausible misspelling. This is harmless to keep and harmful to delete. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:28, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per J947, plus this might be how some people pronounce the word. Regards, SONIC678 03:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. Redirects like this are cheap and harmless. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:29, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. Further, the target is a DAB page, which means that links to it will get found and fixed within a few weeks. Narky Blert (talk) 08:53, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Liquidation of America

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:30, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

The term "Liquidation" is nowhere in the target article, and the phrase could be seen as ambiguous anyways since "Liquidation" could refer to business failure, etc. Steel1943 (talk) 20:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete. All the google hits for this phrase are partial title matches for things like "liquidation of America's middle classes", "liquidation of America's 'bloody mess' in Vietnam" or "liquidation of America Movil". Thryduulf (talk) 23:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. This expression is ambiguous and the redirect may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:28, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and above. the ultraUsurper 16:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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Usa collapse

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:30, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Collapse ≠ Dissolution. In addition, this redirect is ambiguous as it could refer to economic issues, health issues, etc. Delete to allow search results to be more helpful. Steel1943 (talk) 20:43, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete. Badly formatted and ambiguous, this redirect may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:29, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Australian Trump

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 22:48, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Internet search results name Clive Palmer and Pauline Hanson as candidate Trumps of Australia, but I didn't come across any sources calling Morrison that. Delete unless stronger evidence can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:32, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete; seems to not refer to Morrison per nom. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:33, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete, not a common name for Morrison. Hog Farm Bacon 05:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Chinese Trump

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 22:48, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Doesn't appear to be a nickname for Xi Jinping, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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Untitled Schulman/Joost project

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 25#Untitled Schulman/Joost project

Wikipedia:Ilir Ikonomi

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

We don't need a redirect from project space to article space. Adam9007 (talk) 19:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete. Improper use of the "Wikipedia:" namespace. Steel1943 (talk) 20:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete as not needed cross namespace redirect. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:16, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. Fails the guidelines for cross-namespace redirects. Likely a good-faith error based on a misunderstanding of how namespaces work. Hog Farm Bacon 05:27, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete this (probably erroneous) cross-namespace redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 2

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 25#Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 2

Template:Archive box non-auto

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was soft delete as unopposed. -- Tavix (talk) 22:43, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Following a merger of {{Archive box}} (the original target) and {{Archives}} the title makes no sense. {{Archives}} (the current target) is automatic by default. One transclusion would have to be updated. --Trialpears (talk) 18:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

TfD link for the curious. --Trialpears (talk) 18:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Template:R from plausible term

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

All redirects should go from plausible terms; otherwise, they probably belong here. This has pretty much nothing to do with anchors. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:08, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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Social Security System

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The result of the discussion was procedural close. I'm closing this discussion since the active move discussion occurring at Talk:Social Security System (Philippines)#Requested move 10 July 2020 has this title proposed as the primary option for retitling. For this reason, this RFD discussion essentially fragments the discussion regarding the nominated redirect on two pages, potentially making it more confusing to establish consensus at the move discussion. After the move discussion is closed, if this title is still a redirect and there are still concerns with its target, the redirect can be renominated. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 17:26, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Since every first letter of every first word of this redirect is capitalized, I assume the reader expects that they are looking for the specific system, not social security in general. I propose retargeting this redirect to Social Security, which is a dab page containing some specific systems the reader may be looking for. Though the current target contains a hatnote linking to my proposed target, I think we should still reduce the WP:ASTONISH-ness here. pandakekok9 (talk) Junk the Philippine anti-terror law! 12:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment My initial thought here is that the organisation of our articles on this could do with some joined up thinking. There are partial and sometimes overlapping lists of specific systems at Social Security#National and regional systems (a section of the article about the concept), Ministry of Social Security (a dab page), Social security (a dab page), Ministry of Welfare (a dab page), Ministry of Social Welfare (a dab page), Department of Social Welfare (a dab page), Welfare#Welfare systems (a section of the article about the concept that is poorly differentiated from Social security), and possibly elsewhere. As an exact name of an organisation it appears that Social Security System (Philippines) is the only one, so that needs a hatnote if this targets somewhere other than a list it appears in. It's worth noting that Social security is proposed to be merged into Welfare - see Talk:Welfare#Merge with Social security (only 3 !votes + nominator so far, but all in favour). Thryduulf (talk) 12:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • I agree with Thryduulf. We might best be served by putting this discussion on hold pending the merge discussion at least. My inclination is that an article describing the concept is a better fit for the redirect (i.e., keep). The specific systems listed on the disambiguation page are also listed there. If the point is that only the Filipino system is formally named this way, that's true, but keep in mind that not all ways of navigating Wikipedia are case sensitive. The American and Iranian articles specifically refer to their "social security system". Cf. WP:NCGOV, noting that judging which government body names are unique enough has built-in subjectivity. --BDD (talk) 16:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Paycheck to paycheck

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 26#Paycheck to paycheck

Kalaalisut

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Kalaallisut. signed, Rosguill talk 20:37, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Could also mean West Greenlandic. Therefore, disambiguate. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 12:51, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Sure, no problem. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:20, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Kalaallisut to be consistent with the article naming scheme. The way I understand this is that Kalaallisut is the Greenlandic name for Greenlandic and Kalaallisut is the usual English name for the standard dialect of Greenlandic. The misspelling shouldn't be a disambiguation page if the correct spelling is not a disambiguation page, especially given the misspelling is largely unambiguous. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 06:11, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Diminish

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:36, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

This redirect is longstanding, but has minimal incoming links. It's unclear to me why it should favor the current target over other articles with diminished or diminishing in their titles. And I came across this when I looked up Diminishment, which is a very specific usage. Disambiguation seems tricky, since we'd really just be listing grammatical variants. I'm not sure what the best course of action is. BDD (talk) 15:48, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak Keep This is a tricky one, disambiguation seems like a safe choice, but to be safe, I say leave it unchanged. This is definitely a topic that could use further discussion. James-the-Charizard (talk to me!) (contribs) 22:27, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. This redirect may cause confusion. Search is better. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:32, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Soft retarget to Wiktionary. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 18:13, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete – By pointing nowhere, the reader will be presented with search results. This is the most expeditious means to find an the desired content, not clicking through articles and potentially-incomplete disambiguation pages. Navigating search results is a skill possessed by all users. Senator2029 “Talk” 08:29, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete too vague Devokewater @ 09:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete certainly shouldn't remain on current target. I'm more persuaded by the delete argument, I'm not in favour of a Soft retarget to Wiktionary otherwise we would need to be doing it for a lot of words.Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. There isn't any media that goes by this title. Diminished has a bunch of partial title matches though. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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Ifeelmyself

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:36, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

There is no logic to this redirect, and nothing links to Ifeelmyself ZimZalaBim talk 04:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete: There is some perverted logic to this requestredirect given target but I'll go with nom. Closer Consider salting. Don't believe creator has a COI though promotionalism is possible. Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:23, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Note I've added IFeelMyself to this nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 09:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. Nothing linking to a redirect is not a reliable indicator of it being either useful or not useful. However in this case, it is not useful - "Ifeelmyself" is a generic term used in porn with no specific connection to the target website. There is a porn site called ifeelmyself.com but as far as I can tell that has no connection with Abbywinters.com, including having different owners. Given all this I think the chance of the creator having a COI is very small. I also don't see any evidence that salting is needed - this was created in 2016 and the creator hasn't edited since that year. Thryduulf (talk) 09:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom Devokewater @ 12:12, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. A Google search indicates that the term is a rather obscure, generic porn site slang keyword for masturbation porn (also tagged "ifm"). (No, I hadn't heard of this before looking). There is no evidence that the target has a stronger relation to the term than any other porn site. • Gene93k (talk) 15:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete sounds like a G10. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:07, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Nevermind the G10 then. This depends if the hashtag or catchphrase is unique to that brand. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:07, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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David Jacob Eisenhower

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Dwight D. Eisenhower#Family background. signed, Rosguill talk 20:36, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Delete given that this redirect to Dwight Eisenhower's page contains almost no information about David Jacob Eisenhower. At the very least, this should redirect to the earlier section of Dwight D. Eisenhower#Family background, which gives some information about David Jacob, unlike the Early life and education section which mentions him not at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hjwms77 (talk • contribs) 02:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment I've updated the section to #Family background. —ADavidB 06:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep as retargetted as there is encyclopaedic information about this person there. Note that this was created as an article and boldly redirected, so should the consensus be against having a redirect it should be reverted and sent to AfD (a previous article about this person was deleted after an expired PROD). Thryduulf (talk) 10:03, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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