User talk:Sdkb/Archive 11

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Hello, Sdkb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Motley Coffeehouse".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Sdkb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Hunan Grand Theatre".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Sdkb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Donald Bentley".

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Hello, Sdkb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "White Pearl".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Sdkb. One of your bots made a change to https://en.wikipedia.orghttps://wikious.com/en/List_of_Blackburn_Historical_Plaques to correct some dates to Wikipedia standard format. The affected text was taken from the plaques in question, so the changes made the text inaccurate.

I'm pretty new to editing Wikipedia, so asked in Teahouse if there was a way to protect some content from automated bot alteration (https://en.wikipedia.orghttps://wikious.com/en/Wikipedia:Teahouse#c-Scooby359-20240714172200-How_to_protect_content_from_bots). They suggested raising it with yourself to let you know of the issue, and see if there's any way to resolve it.

I've now been made aware of the {{nobots}} tag. Is there any other way I could flag this content to protect it from bot alteration?

Thanks, Chris. Scooby359 (talk) 19:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Scooby359! Thanks for raising this. Those edits were part of the general fixes set, which is a collection of normally uncontroversial edits that my or many other bots will make in the course of other edits. Normally, GENFIX would recognize and ignore text in quotes, but in this case there are no quotation marks so it did not identify the quotes as such.

@Mathglot's advice to use {{as written}} on the quotes rather than {{nobots}} on the whole article is solid, as it's a much more precise way to target the issue.

Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 14:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

@Sdkb That's great. I've changed the page to use {{as written}} so hopefully should be ok going forward. Thanks for explaining and teaching me something new!

Cheers, Chris Scooby359 (talk) 18:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I'm reaching out because of your (semi) recent discussion at the article Talk page concerning the photo collage on the article, and changes being made to it without consensus. There's been a strange rash of revisions to the thing over the past four days, unilateral and without Talk discussion notwithstanding the request in the article source code, and my efforts to steer matters toward conversation and consensus. TBH I don't really care much one way or the other about the collage, but do believe that an FA deserves better than thrice-weekly revisions by editors who have decided that they like, or don't like, the photos at the top of the article. If you have the inclination I could use a bit of support on the issue of process at least - helping get interested editors talking about what the article's photo collage should look like, in the hope that we can find something agreeable to everyone, and stable. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 17:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out! I've found collages to be a notoriously hard area to maintain — for whatever reason, there's a strong tendency for editors to want to make changes to well-composed collages that make them worse. It looks like the stable version of the D.C. collage has been restored, and I commented briefly on the talk page. Best, Sdkb ^talk 04:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't much care if it's updated or not (though I think the existing version is *fine*) - but it does matter that changes be made deliberately and thoughtfully, taken from among suitable photo candidates, and not just something that caught a random editor's eye. JohnInDC (talk) 12:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Sdkb, I was able to get some additional photos for the Culinary Institute of America article. I've linked to them in my response on the Talk page. Was curious if you had any additional thoughts. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 20:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for arranging to have the photos uploaded! I added the one of students in the kitchen to the history section of the article, where I think it's a nice addition. I'll leave the task of integrating the criticism section into the history section to someone else, as I unfortunately don't have the capacity at the moment to handle it myself. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 20:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for adding that! And no worries, I appreciate the feedback and work you've put in, and I saw Melchior responded about the criticism section. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 15:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey Sdkb, there's a supposed image of Chopin floating around, which seems to be disproved as a fake (); that is, an edited detail from a 20th-century painting.

It's been removed from the associated Wikipedia articles, but apparently it was featured on the main page as a part of DYK. See Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/January#9 January 2024. Do you think its worth starting a discussion on DYK about checking the chosen images more thoroughly? I don't know if this really relates to a larger issue or not. I suppose at the end of the day, its still an intended depiction of him, but I doubt DYK would have used it if they knew it was a forgery. Aza24 (talk) 00:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

@Aza24, I would absolutely bring it up. There is a prior instance in which a photo of the wrong person was used, so this isn't totally a one-off, and brainstorming about how to prevent it from recurring might be helpful. Sdkb ^talk 04:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, just got a conversation going here – Aza24 (talk) 03:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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Hey Sdkb, I noticed that on Special:Diff/1238025322, the rmCloser reverted the archive wrapper and re-added the RM dated template. I'm just curious if you noticed anything peculiar with that edit and are not surprised to see this message, or if you didn't and there might be something wrong with the script. Courtesy ping TheTVExpert. Best, Bobby Cohn (talk) 18:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

I didn't notice anything unusual when I made that edit, so yeah, there may be some sort of script issue. Thanks for noticing/fixing! Sdkb ^talk 19:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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Hi mento how i create my wekipedia page indeed --Abdulrahman nura (talk) 16:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Abdulrahman nura — see Help:Your first article. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 19:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

How do i create citation --Abdulrahman nura (talk) 17:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Abdulrahman nura — see Help:Referencing for beginners. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 19:24, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Sdkb, what's your best advice for someone who's new here and wants to learn how to edit and publish new articles? --RICHAOBO1 (talk) 10:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

My advice is not to start with creating new articles; go build up some experience with other tasks first. Then, when you're ready, read Help:Your first article and follow its advice, particularly about sourcing. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 13:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

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Heya, I saw you added pluralisation control to the instrument parameter of Template:Infobox musical artist. Would you be able to do the same for occupation, spouse and partner? Miklogfeather (talk) 12:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@Miklogfeather,  Done here; please let me know if there are any issues! Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 19:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Sdkb! I remember coming across your RfA previously and wanted to offer a belated congrats for successfully passing :)

I'm writing because I was browsing Wikipedia:Meetup/Boston and have noticed your name come up fairly often in recent meetups. Do you happen to still be in the area? I was interested in potentially attending/organizing one as there hasn't been a single in-person meetup in the region this year to my knowledge. I managed to catch the tail end of one nearly a decade ago but the opportunity has eluded me since. I'm close by and my schedule is relatively flexible for the coming months, and I'd love to meet some other contributors in the area. Would you happen to have any insight into what goes into organizing one of these (room reservation process, etc)? Appreciate it! ~Liance^talk 19:20, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Liance; thank you! I'm not in the Boston area most of the year (although I will be at WikiConference North America in Indianapolis in a few weeks), but best wishes with arranging a meetup! Sdkb ^talk 19:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply! I'll reach out to some other editors who might be in the area. Perhaps our paths will cross sometime in the future. Best, ~Liance^talk 23:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Where is the little picture of a magnifying glass to click on to enter an item to locate and read? --Larry0909 (talk) 00:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

If you are searching for the search bar, try zooming out on your browser. win8x (talking | spying) 20:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

@Larry0909 Pinging because I forgot :) win8x (talking | spying) 20:20, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Last year, you wrote Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-01-01/In_the_media#How_to_get_divorced_on_Wikipedia. Apparently, there are no hard feelings: (last question). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Hey, Sdkb! I'm looking to get the gears turning on the admin recall RfC, but a lot of the sections have been sitting open for a while. Since I know you have experience with RfC closes, would you be willing to help close a few sections? It looks like we won't be going right to implementation from there, so the closes are mainly advisory – helps in putting together the next discussion (fingers crossed!). Thanks in advance :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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ButterNoodle, yum! Thank you! Sdkb ^talk 06:12, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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	Great seeing you again at WCNA! Your talk made me feel the urge to get back into copyediting FACs (though I'm scared of how much the whole FA process may have changed since I was last doing that, uh... ten years ago... @_@) Anyway, till next time IRL and in the meantime, see you round the wikis! Accedietalk to me 16:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Accedie! Good luck with any FACs you launch! Sdkb ^talk 17:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

I want to thank you for your lecture on article quality degradation at WCNA. I dare say it was the most interesting and useful talk of the whole conference.

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That's high praise, Compassionate727; thank you! (For any talk page stalkers, the presentation slides, based off my essay WP:ENDURE, are here, and the audio will be up soon once they process it.) Sdkb ^talk 17:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks, OhanaUnited! I had noticed in the closing session that you listed me as only having completed some of the tasks, so I was wondering where I had been disqualified; I guess this means I actually wasn't disqualified after all? Sdkb ^talk 17:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

I was in a hurry and might have missed some things (or that I only saw some of your tasks being marked as complete when I was creating the slides, and you subsequently updated the table). OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 21:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

@OhanaUnited, I updated the table just before the noon deadline that was announced. No worries — it was indeed a tight timeline! For next year, it might make sense to announce an earlier deadline, so that you can be sure to consider all the contributions submitted by then. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 21:28, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I was updating it around noon. Probably it was still using an outdated cache on my laptop so it didn't show your 13 completed tasks. I'll mark that as a to-do item next year. The time crunch was definitely difficult to manage since we had to hand out a physical prize (rather than just virtual). OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 23:22, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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I am glad to have a mentor, and hope you're not an AI. I was reading the wikipedia article on Alfred Orage, and found a few items in the article that I thought I could illuminate with material from my own library and researches. It was surprising how many paths that led me down, and the limitations that Google search still has (i.e., I was able to find information it had not incorporated into its dataset, and I'm by no means a search expert.) Anyway, I added my discoveries to the best of my ability to the Talk page for this article. I don't like to concept of me being able to edit an article live any more than I think a writer should be published just because he wants to be. I am hoping that my information makes for a more accurate and interesting article. Incidentally, in the box at the beginning about improving the article it suggests that a photo be added, but the article does have one...can I suggest that suggestion be corrected? Well, thanks for reading this if you have and please feel free to write me back at any time. Germitage --Germitage (talk) 01:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Germitage! I'm not an AI (at least that I'm aware...). Thanks for contributing your knowledge to Talk:Alfred Richard Orage and hope you stick around to make more contributions elsewhere!

I've removed the image request from the talk page. It was asking for a freely licensed image, whereas the one there now is fair use, but for a historical figure it's unlikely that anyone will be able to fulfill such a request (you can't go take a picture of a deceased person the same way you can a building...) so it wasn't doing much good.

Regarding the information about him, Wikipedia foundationally aims to be a tertiary source compiling the information found in secondary sources like newspapers and books. As such, we do not accept original research that has not been published elsewhere. That may somewhat limit what would be appropriate to contribute to the article at this point. But to the extent you can find sources that back up the information you'd like to add, we encourage you to be bold and add it! That article is currently assessed as C-class, so there is lots of room for improvement!

Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 03:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you kindly for your helpful information. I think I can document all the comments I made in the talk page from published (even if not easily available) sources. The main thing I worry about is "where to stop" :)

For instance, the article mentions that Orage's gravestone has an Enneagram on it. I found three sources that confirm that: a mention of it in his biography, a description of the gravestone from the website of the churchyard where he's buried, showing a drawing of the enneagram, and a photo of the gravestone found on a site called findagrave.com. It seems like overkill to provide all those sources, but I don't have any reason to include one than another. I don't even know if it's permitted to include the findagrave link.

Also, the current text states that his disciples paid for the creation of the gravestone, but none of my sources corroborate that.

Anyway, I feel a little guilty to include all this, but since you answered my last question, I thought I'd ask this.

Maybe I should just go ahead and put all the stuff I found into the appropriate places in the article, and see what other editors decide is appropriate. I am perfectly willing to accept the decision of editors; in any case, I assume all my wonderful work, even if not used, will always be stashed away in the talk page. Germitage (talk) 05:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

@Germitage, good questions! First, on "where to stop", the guiding principles for what information to include or not include in an article are WP:DUEWEIGHT and WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. Basically, information that has been discussed by reliable sources can be included in a concise manner. The definition of a reliable source can be complex, but Find A Grave would not be considered reliable because it contains user-generated content. In general, I would include only the highest-quality source(s) for a piece of information that are available — the goal is always to ensure that facts are verifiable, so if e.g. there's an NYT feature available, no need to include anything else.

Regarding the current text, is there a citation for that fact? If so, you can check whether it corroborates it. If so, we're good. If there is but it doesn't, you could add the {{failed verification}} tag to the sentence (let me know if you need help doing so) or just remove the fact entirely if you suspect it is false. If there's no citation, the typical steps are to either remove it (again, best to do this when you suspect it's false) or tag it with {{citation needed}} (although in this case, I wouldn't do that since the orange tag at the top of the article covers that, and we don't want to tag bomb).

Regarding the last question, yes, I'd definitely encourage you to be bold and edit the article directly! The revision history is stored permanently, so if you accidentally mess anything up it'll be easy for others to fix it.

Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 21:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Sdkb. I noticed that you proposed on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities that the discussion about the 2020 census issue be moved to another location, but then it looks like you reverted your own edit. I think moving the discussion elsewhere is a good idea. We don't want a page devoted to a broad subject like cities to be swamped with potentially dozens of longish entries about a subject few people will be interested in. Closing the topic with a pointer to where the discussion is continuing seems to be the way to go. Why the revert? PopePompus (talk) 18:48, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

I meant to close the thread at the Village Pump, pointing to the discussion you started at WT:CITIES to consolidate everything there. Sillily, I accidentally closed the discussion at WT:CITIES, circularly redirecting to WT:CITIES. I reverted that and then closed the discussion I meant to at the pump. Hope that clarifies! Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 18:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi talk page stalkers! I'm casting my votes in the administrator elections, and in the spirit of Wikipedian transparency (and experimenting with RfA dynamics) I figured I'd disclose how I'm voting.

Some process notes: I spent roughly 1-2 hr. making my choices. I relied on a mixture of information in candidate guides, the statements/questions/discussion on nomination pages, and (in a few cases) my own impressions of the candidate from past interactions. If you do the math with the timing, you'll see that it doesn't work out to much time per candidate, so in some cases snap judgements/cursory looks were involved. Therefore, no one should take my choices to carry much weight as an (anti-)endorsement (unlike my normal RfA !votes, where I tend not to weigh in unless I have a strong view I'll stand behind). I chose not to make any abstentions, since (unlike RfA neutrals) those don't have any impact.

Overall, I think I was somewhat tougher than I would be at a normal RfA, both to compensate for the fact that they are receiving less scrutiny than normal candidates (and thus small observed issues may hint at larger missed ones) and because the culture of AEC seems to involve fewer nominators who might have caught issues in vetting. (Some advice for candidates: Run with nominators! Their endorsement will help you, and you'll avoid giving the impression that you don't have them because no one was willing.) Some issues that I'd probably have been able to overlook at a normal RfA, such as a lack of quality content nominations, therefore became WP:NOTQUITEYET dealbreakers here.

If anyone wants to know why I voted a particular way on a particular candidate, I'll be happy to discuss if I can remember. I'm also open to being persuaded if anyone wants to convince me I'm wrong about a candidate and should revote (I view dialogue with you all, who I probably trust more than the average Wikipedian, as a step in the process to help me catch instances where I might be voting differently than I would had I done more thorough vetting). With that preamble done, my votes:

Lastly, one overall impression about the process: While I appreciate that the random sorting helped avoid any undue scrutiny of candidates based on alphabetical order of usernames, it made it quite a bit harder to match everyone up with the voter guides/nomination pages as I was going through them. I hope that we'll find a way to make this easier if we do this again.

Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 05:21, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Appreciate the transparency :) There's a few where we voted differently, but nothing I feel like I need to argue with you over. As to your last point: I'd prefer an alphabetical listing where the starting point is random (so every candidate shows up at the top the same number of times, but it's not too hard to correlate to an actual alphabetical list elsewhere). Elli (talk | contribs) 05:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

That's a good idea! Sdkb ^talk 05:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

I love that idea. I have filed phab:T378313! HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

I like that "somewhat tougher than I would be at a normal RfA" still means 17 yes. Helps give me hope that we will get a bunch of new admins out of this experiment. -- asilvering (talk) 09:40, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

I've added an outcomes column now that results have been released. It appears that I was more generous than the electorate as a whole. Sdkb ^talk 22:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

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• An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!

On 8 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Genesis (Lebrun), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Rico Lebrun refused to submit sketches of Genesis (detail pictured), a mural commissioned by Pomona College, for approval by its board of trustees? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Genesis (Lebrun). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Genesis (Lebrun)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hi there Sdkb, I'm toying with a proposal to reduce template spam, which perhaps you could comment on. My idea is that any template includes "discuss the issue" or "Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page" can be removed by any editor, if there was never a discussion begun on the talk page about such issues. In my mind, other editors can't be expected to read the mind of drive-by templaters, and it's not their responsibility to do so. Additionally, if the templater can't be bothered to even give one sentence on the talk page, that's on them.

I've found myself frequently removing templates undersuch rationales, see here most recently.

Examples of such templates include {{Original research}} & {{Too few opinions}}, among many others. How does it sound? Aza24 (talk) 16:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Also, I just saw a comment from you a few years back at Template talk:GANotice#Linking to the assessment subpage. I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but given that we have a new bot & operator, perhaps this could be easily implemented now. Aza24 (talk) 18:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Aza24! So sorry for the delayed reply here! On template spam, I think such reform would have to be worded carefully. For some maintenance templates, the issue is fairly obvious to any other experienced editor, so a message on the talk page wouldn't add much additional information. If anyone doesn't understand why a template was added, I think they should always be free to remove it, but I wouldn't want any reform to give carte blanche permission for people to start going around removing maintenance templates en masse/semi-automated, since my sense is that most such templates tend to point to valid issues. The more common cause of template spam that I come across is that an article is tagged with both major and minor issues, and the minor issues add up to spam. One way to try to address that would be to try come up with pairs of related maintenance templates, where we can agree that if an article is tagged with one, that covers the other, making it unneeded. The secondary one could then be removed through an AWB task.

I think I also have a slightly different philosophical view about the level of responsibility taggers have. When one comes across a deficiency in an article, we could say the three actions available are just tagging it, tagging and adding a talk page message, and directly resolving it. Directly resolving it (presuming one has the skills to do so) is obviously the best but also most time-consuming option. Adding a maintenance tag, on the other hand, does less to help but is super quick. They're therefore often used when someone notices an issue but isn't invested enough in the article (or just doesn't have the time) to actually resolve it. Requiring that maintenance tags always be accompanied with a talk page message, which has to be composed by hand, would substantially increase the time it takes to add them, and therefore might push some editors to just not bother and leave the article untagged.

The last thing that comes to mind on the template spam issue is that we need to do a better job specializing our messaging for readers vs. editors. Deficiencies like insufficient references are relevant for readers and properly belong as a notice for them on the article, but a lot of yellow-colored (style issue) maintenance tags are not, and are relevant only for editors. Those would more properly be displayed in editnotices rather than banners. We already recognize this issue a little bit in e.g. {{Orphan}} not displaying after a few months, but if I was going to get more involved in this area, converting some banners to a new type of editnotice (and having tools like Twinkle be able to handle this, which might be difficult given the current template-protection editnotices need to have for technical reasons) would be an initiative I'd take on.

Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 17:59, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

And regarding {{GANotice}}, I was referring to the fact that many forms of the notice currently don't link to the specific nomination page for the GA, e.g. Talk:F. Andrieu/GA1. It looks like there is a parameter that allows for that in some (it seems not all?) forms of the notice, but in practice it seems never to be used (or at least didn't at the time I wrote that message) because the notice is typically delivered by bot.

I think it might be possible to create a template that takes as input an article and returns the link to the GA nomination page where it passed, but it might be easier to address on the bot operator's side. Feel free to ping the new operator and perhaps they can look into it!

Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 18:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello Sdkb, I liked your suggestion about a "Did You Know" for the LaTasha Barnes article. I am going to try posting that. Thanks very much, Wroliver (talk) 19:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

@Wroliver, good luck! There is still cleanup work to do at LaTasha Barnes to make it less promotional and more encyclopedic—you can look at the biographies of other dancers (say, Frankie Manning) to get a sense of what's expected. If you have any questions, or once you've completed your edits, post at the nomination page to let the reviewer, Dumelow, know. I'd do one of those two today, since if you don't show that you're actively working on it, the nomination will time out.

I know DYK can be a haul, but it's worth it to see the article appear on the Main Page (with its 6 million daily views)!

Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 14:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello Sdkb,

Thanks for the link to Manning's bio. I will do some additional work on the article to make it less promotional.

192.65.213.200 (talk) 15:34, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello Sdkb,

I've responded to all corrections requested in my LaTasha Barnes article. I had been corresponding with Dumelow about it, but most of the conversations on his talk page have disappeared, including mine. I'm wondering if you can help. I tried posting the new DYK hook that you suggested, and was asked to make changes to the article. Would you be able to approve the hook and article? How should I proceed?

Thanks,

Wroliver (talk) 20:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Wroliver! The central place to discuss any DYK nomination is the DYK nomination page, in this case Template:Did you know nominations/LaTasha Barnes. So I would put all replies there. You can ping Dumelow (using the @ symbol or the person-plus icon) to give him a notification if needed. He needs to grant approval for the nomination to proceed. (Your prior conversation on Dumelow's talk page has been archived, something many users do to keep their talk pages from becoming too long. It's here. The possibility that conversations elsewhere get archived or missed is one reason to keep all discussion centralized at the nomination page.) Hope that helps! Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 21:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I will go back to the nominations page. Wroliver (talk) 13:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I absolutely agree with your revert of the See Also links for Pomona College. How I ended up on the college's page, I have no idea, because immediately thereafter, I added the same See Also to KSPC, its radio station. I'm working from the recently added List of college radio stations in the United States, and this would be the first and only time I've accessed a page other than a radio station's. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 22:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I wanted to create a new page for Nicole Higginbotham-Hogue. How do I go about doing that? --Higginbothampub (talk) 03:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Higginbothampub! See Help:Your first article. Also, since your username relates to the subject, see Wikipedia:Conflicts of interest. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 05:02, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

What is a role beyond editor on Wikipedia that is easy to achieve? --WikiEditor5678910 (talk) 00:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

@WikiEditor5678910, I suggest applying for Certified Hat Collector. Actually, though, Rollbacker is typically one of the first granted. Best, Sdkb ^talk 01:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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is my content fine to publish? --Sandeepchennai (talk) 11:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

See Help:Your first article. Sdkb ^talk 15:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

is my content fine to publish? i have given possible reference links and cite links --Sandeepchennai (talk) 10:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Which content? Please link to it. Sdkb ^talk 15:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

For your work at Teahouse. Best, Luke Elaine Burke (talk) 15:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Someone has poured you tea.

Luke Elaine Burke (talk) 15:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I happily drink the tea, Luke Elaine Burke! The Teahouse is a place I'm always happy to be! Sdkb ^talk 15:30, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

What is the main purpose of Editing on Wikipedia?. And can you just Edit without having any reasonable reason?. Raph Williams65 (talk) 18:17, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

@Raph Williams65: We're here to write an encyclopedia. You don't need any particular reason to start editing (there are many), so long as your contributions are constructive toward that goal. Sdkb ^talk 18:19, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

@Sdkb: thanks for the tip!, it was helpful. Raph Williams65 (talk) 18:39, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey User:Sdkb.

*How can i become an Admin?. What does it takes to become an Administrator?. What is the significant role of an Administrator on Wikipedia?.

-- Raph Williams65 (talk) 08:40, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

@Raph Williams65, see Wikipedia:Administrator. Sdkb ^talk 08:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Inspired by Worm That Turned's re-RfA where he noted administrators don't get a lot of feedback or suggestions for improvement, I have decided to solicit feedback. I'm reaching out to you as you are currently one of the users I've selected as part of my recall process. I hope you will consider taking a few moments to fill out my feedback form. Clicking on the link will load the questions and create a new section on my user talk. Thanks for your consideration. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:28, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

When filling in the "Critic's response" in a film's en.wiki WP article, I update the Wikidata for the film, then use the following in the WP article: {{RT prose|{{RT data|score}}|{{RT data|average}}|{{RT data|count}}|prose prose prose prose|ref=yes|access-date={{RT data|date}}}}

Short and sweet, very very convenient, automatically updates the WP article if some user later updates the Wikidata fields.

A challenge is that, if the information for the Rotten Tomatoes average rating has "/10" included in the Wikidata field, it results in a double "/10/10" appearing in the WP article. For example, for the 2021 film Oxygen, putting 6.8/10 in the Wikidata field results in the en.wikipedia article displaying:

... of 106 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 6.8/10/10.

The only way to avoid this is to not include the "/10" when filling in the Wikidata field, resulting in the en.wikipedia article properly showing:

... of 106 critics' reviews are positive, with an average rating of 6.8/10.

While this "workaround" resulted in a nice output for en.wikipedia articles, it has been brought to my attention, by de.wiki editor Eiragorn, that leaving out some of the extra detail in the cross-language shared Wikidata is resulting in issues for the templates used in the WP articles in other languages. The "workaround" to make the en.wikipedia template work is hurting other ill.wikipedia templates.

I should point out that, until very recently, this "double display" issue would also happen if the Tomatometer score, in the Wikidata file, had the "%" symbol included, resulting in a double "%%" appearing in the en.wikipedia article. For the Oxygen example, this produced:

On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 90%% of 106 critics' reviews...

It appears this has been fixed in the en.wikipedia template. In fact, it is "beyond fixed", as you can now enter the digits by themselves (90), or the digits and the symbol (90%), and the result in always a single "%" appearing in the en.wikipedia article. For the Oxygen example, this now always produces:

On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, 90% of 106 critics' reviews...

Can the {{RT data|average}}, for use in en.wikipedia articles, be adjusted to always show a proper, single, "/10" in the WP article? I can, then, gleefully will in the Wikidata fields with all the proper addons (%, /10) and not worry that it blows up other ill.wikis.

If I should take this to someone else, please point me in the right direction. Either way, thank you for your help. Jmg38 (talk) 23:53, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jmg38! Good questions. I would actually start by going to Wikidata and asking there what the proper format for recording the information is. It might be that they have some different way of recording the /10 denominator and that you therefore shouldn't include it in the value. Or not. They also have the ability to introduce constraint violations or make mass edits to enforce the proper format.

Once that's done, we (and the other Wikipedias) can then work with it as a baseline. It'd certainly still be good to make {{RT data}} more flexible, though, so that it can better handle errors at Wikidata. Having it either enforce the /10 or force its omission for RT data sounds very doable. @Indagate has done some work on the module recently, and might be able to help or might know who else could.

Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 00:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Will pursue those ideas. Thank you. Jmg38 (talk) 01:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Hey, the template's can be combined with less code, like {{RT data|prose|consensus=...|ref=yes}}, this means each template is only called once in the article, done this at the Oxygen article mentioned and seems to fix the double /10 issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indagate (talk • contribs) 03:44, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

WTH(eck), Indagate?!?! A win!! I found the longer one a few years ago in a film article, have been typing the whole thing out for years (a lie – I just copy and paste). BTW, the folks at the Wikidata discussion confirmed status quo for their data requirements, suggested addressing the en.wikipedia templates I was using – which you have now bested. Thank you for this, and thank you Eiragorn and Sdkb for your parts in this short, and nicely resolved, discussion. Jmg38 (talk) 18:40, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

No problem! If there are improvements to the documentation or Wikidata constraints we could make to make the best practice clearer, I'd suggest it so that this same question doesn't come up again in the future. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 19:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

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• An arbitration case titled Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.

Hi Sdkb!

I see that you are my mentor here on Wikipedia. Interesting feature they have here.

I digress, would love to get tips on how I can eventually get our research project added as a wikipedia article upcoming.

Our research is done around cognitive ability assessments. We are also likely going to need to be a for profit business after the research is done unfortunately. It's the nature of the beast.

Anyway, I wanted to respectfully go through the process of adding a solid, well written, and extremely in depth wikipedia page on our research project + cognitive ability assessments in general.

Looking for advice. Cheers (: --Robert Neir (talk) 07:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Robert Neir! See Help:Your first article. You have a paid conflict of interest with any article on a business with which you are involved, so be sure to abide by the relevant rules. Best, Sdkb ^talk 07:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I will start by editing some existing articles and will make sure to keep in mind conflict of interest related things. Robert Neir (talk) 23:34, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I see you were part of removing this page: List of campus identifications in mobile wallets. It was 100% accurate and used by a ton of universities currently using the technology or campuses wanting to talk to campuses using NFC mobile credentials. This page was so important to campuses and now its gone. How do we get it back? 108.227.138.238 (talk) 22:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a web host, so we don't retain articles just because they're useful to a specific group; that group can host the content elsewhere if they want it (you can find what was deleted via archive.org). To reinstate the article, you'd need to show that it was important for an encyclopedia. The way we demonstrate that is through coverage in reliable sources. So talk to journalists and convince them to write about it. Sdkb ^talk 22:06, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I want to contribute a photo of my grandfather Albert Rose-Innes who has an article about him in Wikipedia --JRockWallpaper (talk) 22:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

@JRockWallpaper, thanks for reaching out! It would be great to add a photo for any biography that does not have one. To contribute a photo that doesn't get deleted, though, we need to figure out how to properly license it. Were you the photographer? If not, do you know who was? And do you know the year it was taken? Sdkb ^talk 23:00, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

I got it on the Wikipedia article! DID IT! So happy about this. Joanna K. Rock (talk) 23:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

@Joanna K. Rock @JRockWallpaper, please choose a single account so that it is easier to communicate with you.

When you uploaded the photo, you declared that it was your own work. This is not accurate unless you happen to have been alive in 1906. Please do not make false declarations or your work will quickly be deleted.

Luckily, since the photo was published in 1906, I was able to add a valid license, as it is now in the public domain. I also fixed the formatting at the article.

Best, Sdkb ^talk 00:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

So sorry! Thank you so much, my first time editing, my mistake, and thank you for formatting the article. I am just so pleased I was able to add his photo. Sorry for your trouble. Joanna Rock Joanna K. Rock (talk) 00:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

No worries, and glad to be able to assist! Sdkb ^talk 00:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello sir good morning, I am from Navi Mumbai can I get or entitled to get Kerala Government's Lottery. --Tiger Iqbal (talk) 00:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia. We can't help with anything except writing an encyclopedia. Sdkb ^talk 01:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Sdkb. Regarding your recent revert at WP:ERRORS, please refer to the header at WP:ERRORS, writ: "Reports are removed when resolved. Once an error has been addressed or determined not to be an error, or the item has been rotated off the Main Page, the report will be removed from this page. Check the revision history for a record of any discussion or action taken; no archives are kept." As per that notification, an uninvolved third party removed a report "determined not to be an error". Your revert of this removal, and subsequent warning to an editor reinstating the removal, is incongruous with the stated purpose of the page and established consensus regarding its practice. If you disagree with the determination that an item is not an error, reverting other editors is not the answer; try to discuss the matter in an appropriate venue. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

@Crisco 1492, thanks for the note. I am familiar with the normal operation of WP:ERRORS, having frequented it. I have no issue with items that have been determined not to be an error being removed, but such determination should be by consensus and ideally not enacted by involved parties. In this case, at the time Schwede66 removed the invite, there was another editor agreeing with me on the talk page that the issue was a concern (which Schwede66 may not have seen if he did not click through) and only FA nominator SchroCat objecting. I did not consider that to be consensus of it being a nonissue, so I reinstated it and further explained why I considered it relevant for WP:ERRORS. SchroCat's subsequent removal was made with no further rationale and despite their clear involvement. At that point it became a WP:TPO violation — editors should steer far clear of any action that might be perceived as them trying to hide notice of a discussion in which they are being criticized, and overall when in doubt we should err on the side of widely publicizing discussions.

Regarding reverting other editors is not the answer; try to discuss the matter in an appropriate venue, that is exactly what is happening at the talk page discussion, but such a discussion cannot be held effectively if notices to it in relevant places are suppressed. Sdkb ^talk 20:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you, Sdkb, and I am happy to see that discussion is continuing apace at the article's talk page.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

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I've long been concerned about an editor retention issue involving the chilling effect on users who, for whatever reason, have received a warning template before they have received a Welcome template from anybody. I am attempting to address this issue by making it easier to find such users, so that we can hopefully welcome them, before it is too late and they disappear forever. This involves a new template, {{welcome needed}}. Your feedback at the Talk page would be appreciated. Mathglot (talk) 11:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

That's very interesting, @Mathglot! I think the best place to solve this issue might be at the point someone gives out the warning, since the warner will also know something about the newcomer's behavior (which is useful for customizing a welcome/determining if the newcomer is WP:HERE). I think an intervention such as introducing a system to Twinkle that makes it possible to pair a warning with a welcome with a single "add a welcome" (the specific welcome being adjustable in settings) click could be very impactful. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 15:19, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello Sdkb: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 02:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Hey, do you think you can run your bot again for task Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SdkbBot 4 and extend it to run over this list? Gonnym (talk) 11:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello Sdkb: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Hey. How do I add a picture? --Matt88uk (talk) 09:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed reply, @Matt88uk. This tutorial will help. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 05:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

Sennecaster

• Daniel
• Hog Farm

• BozMo
• Ferret
• John M Wolfson
• MaxSem
• Panyd
• Tide rolls
• Titoxd

CheckUser changes

• Daniel
• Elli
• Liz
• ScottishFinnishRadish
• Theleekycauldron

Worm That Turned

Ferret

Oversight changes

• Daniel
• Elli
• Liz
• ScottishFinnishRadish
• Theleekycauldron

Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RFC, Wikipedia:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.

Technical news

• The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

• Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.

Miscellaneous

• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!

How do I set up a bio/page for Steve Dhillon ? --Stevedhillon (talk) 19:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

See Help:Your first article. Your username indicates you may have a conflict of interest, so also see Wikipedia:Autobiography. Sdkb ^talk 19:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Handled. Sdkb ^talk 23:43, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello - I am curious if there is any way for a person to update information on a page about themselves? I tried to edit the page about myself - but they were rejected - I understand the rule about "relationship" between editor and subject - but do not know if there is a way to get information updated and even corrected - about oneself? --ECD16 (talk) 16:30, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi @ECD16! There is a message on your talk page with more info. To make an edit request given your conflict of interest, go to the talk page of the article, create a new section, and place {{subst:edit COI}} at the top of it. Feel free to let me know if you encounter any issues. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 23:47, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Sdkb, you might be interested in a discussion currently ongoing at Template talk:Infobox academic about the possibility of reformatting the template without the Academic background divider. GuardianH (talk) 23:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! I don't have time to look into it at the moment, but best wishes with your reform efforts! Sdkb ^talk 00:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

I guess I can now see why the GA visibility fixes haven't happened. Is this level of non-responsiveness from WMF normal? Iskandar323 (talk) 09:09, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025).

Administrator changes

• Arcticocean
• Wugapodes

Euryalus

CheckUser changes

• Firefly
• L235

Oversighter changes

• Firefly
• Guerillero
• L235
• Moneytrees

Technical news

• Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846
• A 'Recreated' tag will now be added to pages that were created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted and it can be used as a filter in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. T56145

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been closed.

On 8 February 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Longform.org, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a host of the Longform.org podcast once interviewed a writer while accidentally high on edibles? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Longform.org. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Longform.org), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:03, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

How may i add image on Wikipedia infobox on mobile? --Abir Hussain Sajid (talk) 19:39, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Wishing Sdkb a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:17, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Sdkb! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy first anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! User:Acer-the-Protogen (talk) 14:37, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Wow... 1 year, and you've done so much already!! Have a cookie. Jimbo said he'd pay.

(Acer's Communication Receptacle | what did I do now) | (PS: Have a good day) (acer was here) 13:55, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Cookies on Jimbo tonight babyyy! I'm getting HAMMERED. Panini! • 🥪 00:45, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Hello SDKB. I'm new to the editing process and wondering what the next steps are to becoming an auto user and explore creating a page. To date I've made 16 edits. Can you please walk me through next steps? --Deedady (talk) 20:00, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Deedady! I'm not actually sure why you're not autoconfirmed, as your user rights log says you're not, but you've completed the normal time/edit requirement. You could ask at the Teahouse and someone else might know. Regarding creating an article, there is advice at Help:Your first article. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 20:05, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, SDKB and happy adminship anniversary to you! The link for creating my first article will help me along, thank you. I'll connect with the Teahouse and ask about becoming autoconfirmed.

Thanks, and cheers to you. Deedady (talk) 20:15, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi, Sdkb, I saw your edit summary " User:TJRC, is there any reason you didn't just add this source directly to the article? It's better than anything in there currently" in Close embrace. I'm not sure how I stumbled into that article in the first place. I think I was reading Tango, and the part in that article about "open embrace" and "close embrace", and was wondering on the distinction between the two, so clicked through to close embrace.

Once there, I noted the lack of sources, and decided to try to clean it up a little; but as I reviewed that Gotta Tango book, which talked about "embrace", I realized I was not clear on the various terminologies, i.e. embrace, v. open embrace v. close (or even closed?) embrace. For a non-dancer like me, I realized that, without that knowledge of the material, I could well incorrectly edit the article, and if I did so citing a source, it would appear authoritative, even if I had no way to tell if I was right or wrong.

I decided the best course was to note the availability of the source, in the hopes that someone more conversant with the subject matter could make appropriate edits. TJRC (talk) 23:24, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, that's good to know! My understanding from my background (mostly in swing and fusion) is that open position is the one where partners are connected by the hands, closed position is the "ballroom hold" where the partners have one hand connection and one arm holding the other person, and close embrace involves chest-to-chest contact. But each style has different terminology, creating some muddling, and the articles at present certainly don't do a good job distinguishing them from each other. Sorting all of it out is certainly a task for whoever wants one! Sdkb ^talk 00:43, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

A quarterly update from the Growth team on our work to improve the new editor experience.

Constructive Activation Experiments

This year, the Growth team is exploring ways to help more new account holders start editing—and do so constructively, meaning their edits are not reverted. Our latest experiments include:

• Gradual rollout of "Add a Link" at English Wikipedia – We are gradually introducing the "Add a Link" structured task to newcomers at English Wikipedia (T386029). This serves as a natural A/B test to measure its impact on activation, retention, and revert rates (T382603). Previous experiments on pilot wikis showed that "Add a Link" increases newcomer participation, particularly by helping them make constructive (non-reverted) edits.
• Testing in-article suggestions for first-time editors – Many new account holders want to contribute but don’t know where to start. To help, we’re piloting a feature that surfaces structured task suggestions directly in an article’s read view for brand-new editors (T385343). These suggestions will appear for logged-in users with no edits, providing a clear, simple way to begin contributing that is surfaced while they read.

Community Updates

Newcomers often struggle to find their place in Wikipedia’s collaborative environment. While experienced editors easily discover events like edit-a-thons and writing campaigns, newcomers often miss out.

• To bridge this gap, we launched the Community Updates module for the Newcomer Homepage. This module is disabled by default, allowing Community Admins to decide how (or if) to use it.
• If your community hosts events, consider setting up a Community Update to engage and welcome newcomers! Learn more on Diff. To configure, visit Special:CommunityConfiguration.

Community Configuration

Community Configuration is now available across all wikis, including non-Wikipedia projects (T383910). Community Configuration allows admins to customize various features like Growth features and Automoderator for their communities, and more recently the Babel extension now allows admins to modify configuration:

• Babel customization – Admins can now configure Babel settings (T374348), including category naming, automatic category creation, and more. See an example on Wikimedia Commons.
• Upcoming configurable features – Projects exploring community configuration options include: Incident Reporting System (T374113) and Cite backlinks (T378807).

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• Starting February 17, 100% of new accounts at English Wikipedia will be assigned a mentor (T384505).
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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2025).

Administrator changes

• Jarry1250
• Lethe

CheckUser changes

• AmandaNP
• Drmies

Oversighter changes

AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment is open to discuss whether AI-generated images (meaning those wholly created by generative AI, not human-created images modified with AI tools) should be banned from use in articles.
• A series of 22 mini-RFCs that double-checked consensus on some aspects and improved certain parts of the administrator elections process has been closed (see the summary of the changes).
• A request for comment is open to gain consensus on whether future administrator elections should be held.

Technical news

• A new filter has been added to the Special:Nuke tool, which allows administrators to filter for pages in a range of page sizes (in bytes). This allows, for example, deleting pages only of a certain size or below. T378488
• Non-administrators can now check which pages are able to be deleted using the Special:Nuke tool. T376378

Miscellaneous

• The 2025 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, Arcticocean, Ameisenigel, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, Galahad, Nehaoua, Renvoy, Revi C., RoySmith, Teles and Zafer as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
• Following the 2025 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: 1234qwer1234qwer4, AramilFeraxa, Daniuu, KonstantinaG07, MdsShakil and XXBlackburnXx.

A while ago, you created {{Uw-talkfork}}. Does this situation come up a lot? Afaict, there are no uses of it. Did you intend to, and then the situation resolved itself, or you found another way? I thought that perhaps it wasn't easy to find, so I've added a couple of redirects; perhaps that will help a little. (P.S., there is, or at least was, a very active team proposing dozens of unused templates for deletion; maybe you should go subst that one now before it ends up on some backlog list somewhere. Feel free to tag me with it, and complain that I've told you all this before. ) Mathglot (talk) 06:00, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Talk page stalker..... was unaware of this existed.... I would personally use this... as is definitely comes up from time to time. Our problem is we have a sea of these type of templates. Should come up with some sort of way to consolidate these so we simply adding a parameter like a x y to identify specific warning templates to get the relevant template. ((Userwarning|parameter here)) Moxy🍁 06:21, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

That situation comes up all the time! The most recent instance where I encountered it was barely a week ago. It's often easier to explain in the discussion itself, but this template might at least provide wording to do so (similar to {{Sofixit}}).

I suspect it'd be used more frequently if it was added to Twinkle, so requesting that at WT:Twinkle might be a good step. Similar to templates like {{uw-ping fix}}, though, the "March 2025" heading it creates is a big minus, since that's a de facto black mark many editors don't want to give newcomers who haven't really done anything wrong. So I really wish Twinkle would allow us to define custom default headers for certain warnings.

(As for the team going around massacring unused templates, I really wish they'd remember the last part of WP:TFD#REASONS #3 before making their nominations, but I'll fight for it if needed.)

Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 06:26, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions to Eaton DC. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources, it needs more sources to establish notability and The edit summary "reference dump " summarises this. We need a referenced article not a headline with references. The title also gives no clue that this is a hotel. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   09:41, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your note and your contributions to NPP, @Velella. The hotel is clearly notable, given the many independent reviews from RSP-greenlit sources cited in the article. It is a very short stub at present, yes, but there is no minimum required length for Wikipedia articles, and stubs' presence is a net positive — they provide a small bit of information to readers seeking out the topic (which is better than nothing) and they provide a skeleton for other editors (or the creator) to expand later (consider that getting an article launched is often the hardest step). If our goal is to ultimately have featured-quality coverage of every notable topic, even the shortest stub where there was previously nothing is a step along that path. I added a bunch of references to store them for later use as I expand the article — you'd be justified in adding an {{Excessive citations inline}} tag to reflect that they should be spread out as the article is developed, although I've always found that tag a bit silly in that it adds more clutter than it flags.

Regarding The title also gives no clue that this is a hotel, I also found the name rather odd — it seems more like a restaurant than a hotel! Is there a different title you'd find more suitable? Our general practice with businesses is to use the common name, which in this case is "Eaton DC", and I can't find anything else in the article titles policy that'd justify changes on the basis of a name not giving an impression of a business's type. The topic of the article is explained in the first sentence and the short description, which are the normal places to do so.

Given the above, I am going to reverse the draftification. I'll also start to expand the article a bit as a good-faith gesture. But I hope I've explained why I would not have draftified it had I come across it in the NPP feed, and I hope that you will refrain from doing so for similar articles you may come across in the feed in the future.

(One last note: Your message contradicts itself, which I presume is due to your use of a template. Please be cautious about this in the future, particularly with newer editors who may not realize the source of the contradiction. I've never had any issue with templating regulars, but you are ultimately responsible for the communications you sign, templated or not; when a template does not fit your intended message, you should modify it or write out your note.)

Good luck with your patrolling and best wishes, Sdkb ^talk 17:33, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

How do I create a Wikipedia page? --Kingster Golden (talk) 10:08, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

@Kingster Golden, see Help:Your first article. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 16:22, 8 March 2025 (UTC)